To: Gauguin who wrote (53902 ) 7/26/2000 2:57:20 PM From: Crocodile Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178 Well, something like that must have happened. What's your explanation? Why was this guy's idea accepted? Ideas like that are NEVER accepted. And you know, it had to be one person's idea; first. That they had it first; and they blurted it out somewhere and somebody else had to say "Yah!" Immediately. It had to get some momentum. Otherwise; nuh-uh. Otherwise; Snowball in Hell, New Mexcio. Well, I have to confess to knowing how these things usually work... having been involved in this kind of thing before... well... maybe not the naming of a town... but other things which I will get to in a minute. The way that you usually get your idea to work is to come up with a proposal... and then you think of at least...maybe 3 good reasons for why your proposal should fly. Next, you find at least 1 or possibly 2 people who will back you up... and I mean *really* back you up in a meeting. These will be the people that you can count on to step forward and say, "I AGREE!! I think Jim-Bob's right!! I think we SHOULD name our town Truth or Consequences". You should also have at least... hmm... maybe 8 or 10 friends there... They could be family, but it looks better if they are friends. They don't have to do much, but they should be good at sitting in their chairs, with their arms folded across their chests... making solemn nods periodically as you state your argument in favour of your proposal. Of course, it always helps if at least some of the town council members like your idea and will go, "Yeah!! I think so-and-so has a great idea". If all of the above happens, well, things will probably work out... In my own experience, if you come to a meeting without a PLAN, well... then you should just expect to have to sit through a couple of hours of dead-boring group contemplation.... I once had the pleasure of sitting through a 2 hour discussion about which portable toilet company to hire to provide services for a country fair... Gawd... now talk about.... painful.... Needless to say, at the next meeting, when the subject of whether to buy a raffle ticket wheel (the cage gizmo that raffle tickets go into), or to continue to borrow it once a month from a local service club, I quickly conspired with a fellow sufferer at my table and we made the motion and the second to the motion, to just spend 200 bucks to buy a wheel ..... which spared us from a further 2 hours of discussion on the matter.... My advice when in these situations is to find a co-hort to work with to expedite such weighty matters as name changes, raffle cage purchases and contracts for portable toilet facilities...