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Strategies & Market Trends : Joe Copia's daytrades/investments and thoughts -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Tom Allinder who wrote (22943)	7/29/2000 7:06:02 AM
From: Vision21	Respond to of 25711

Great post Tom....Thank you for taking time to share with this & the golden lists thread. "DD" is the key. David

To: Tom Allinder who wrote (22943)	7/29/2000 9:17:13 AM
From: LANCE B	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25711

excellent post tom.. i have seen the names fly all over the place on joe this week,i thought it was rather amazing that he got the pump n dump label only for the fact that dont you have to sell to get labeled that.. in fact,most of the people who are saying that already have sold and not even taking the risk that joe is still taking.. so for now on if you do not hold stocks until the very end of the run then you are a labeled a pump n dumpers... (damm)i did not hold HRCT,LMKI,IMDS and a few others to there highs..do i have to now enroll in classes to escape this disease.. sbid- every single person that called when joe mentioned this stock at .50 cents was told by the company that they were looking to increase authorizations to 100 million and do at least a 7 for 1 forward split..was it joe's fault that they pulled a fast one..i did not see one post by joe when stock was over 2.50 for anyone to buy and it ran another dollar.. doesnt a pump consist of telling people to buy it still.. fdkp- he might still be considered pumping it,but he is still buying shares too..plus,company has even delivered what they promised ,the forward split.. i have had my disagreements with joe,i do not sugar coat my posts or my thoughts on stuff,but i also have tremendous respect for him too.he takes a lot more risk at what he does than anybody i know in the otc market,heck while you are complaining what he does and selling your stock,he is buying it from you..so much for dumping... pump n dump- the biggest over used word by people that have no clue on what is even going on and are looking for a scapegoat for there own greed and mistakes...joe takes more risk than me because i even lower my cost and postions along the way and take the stress out of it..if joe does call in his certs,let me tell you that is a lot of shares taken out of the market..(where the **** is the dump part in that...good freaking question you idiots,if you still own,how are you running a p&d)you have to sell joe... sscp- heck this is not even his stock or first hand info,but because his name has gotten so popular lately,that he is even taking credit for its demise just because he posted he was buying too...this is the funniest part.. JOE-GOOD THING MICROSOFT IS NOT AN OTC STOCK,even though i personally think you are behind the demise too... yesterday heroes,tomorrow's goat-what a wacky world we have,what have you done for me lately world..but i would not let it bother you too much,stick to the facts,tomorrow when you find info on a new company and post it,people will be buying... THAT IS THE ONLY FACT YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT... talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words... people put there money in what they have faith in.. you egomaniac you!!!!!!!!

To: Tom Allinder who wrote (22943)	7/29/2000 2:52:56 PM
From: LawStor	Respond to of 25711

Well said and right on target IMHO Mr. Allinder and as you said your a very respected poster on SI. Regards, Elwyn

To: Tom Allinder who wrote (22943)	7/30/2000 3:35:43 AM
From: Joe Copia	Respond to of 25711

Tom, with the all my heart I thank you for that post. I have always respected your work and your picks. Albeit a grand post, you did not mention the fact I do not "click" the buy/sell icons for folks. What is the saying?: Timing is .................... If I may re-post: I enjoy an excellent reputation for being an honest, straightforward poster here on SI and on RB. I have had a measure of success with my own "stock picks". I work very hard to find good opportunities in real companies on the OTCBB... But the time has come to post on this: JOE COPIA... most maligned poster on RB/SI and in the chat rooms... Background: When I first got into the stock market, I traded only listed stocks and NASDAQ stocks... in 1996 I started fooling around with pennies. I found my way to this thread... yes FOUR years ago and was a follower of Joe Copia. I made money on many of his "picks"... then I lost money a couple of times and some people convinced me he was a P & D artist. I believed that all that time until the last few months. I have gotten to know Joe... I met him in person in South FL a few months ago. His reputation is unfounded and rooted in jealousy, resentment, envy and a variety of other emotions people can feel that either lose money or don't make as much money as they thought they could. What does Joe Copia do? He works hard... he does his due diligence on the companies that he ultimately posts on. HE buys a position in the company's stock and posts on it... He posts on the stock and then bids for the stock through a MM. Isn't this stock manipulation? NO. HE IS LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD. I have been on the phone many times with Joe when he is SUPPORTING THE BID on a stock he owns. Those people who do the same post the same thing... a number of us have the ability to BID for the stock through a MM making a Market in that stock. I myself have opened two more accounts with firms that make markets in OTCBB stocks so I can go in and do battle with the MMs. I can tell you this.... Joe Copia believes strongly in any stock he is posting on. Joe puts his money where his mouth is and goes on the bid and buys the stock those people are selling. If he was not there to support the bid, these stocks would tank on the SHORT pressure the other MMs put on them. Instead of Bashing Joe Copia, people should stand back and look at the performance of the stocks he has posted on and look at the trading logs... They will see a persistent MM who is supporting the stock. Look at FDKP today... it was up in an ugly market thanks to the support that Joe gives the stock through the MM on the bid. IF Joe was running a P&D on these stocks, then why is he on the bid BUYING THE STOCK that people are selling????? Call it whatever you want.... When Joe likes a stock, I am in because I know he is there to protect the stock from tankage... he does his DD. He calls the company and urges them to keep investors informed. Stocks he has posted on have worked out very well for those of us who bought the stock within the first day or two or three of his posting. Now stack up what Joe does to what NITE and HRZG do? I know that when Joe (and it is often days or weeks before the stock moves higher thereby giving everyone a chance to get in before the move occurs) posts on a stock I can buy and hold and it will work out more often than not. On the other hand, many wait until the party is well underway to jump in then complain that Joe Copia is a P & D artist when the stock corrects. The OTCBB is a hard way to make money... the rewards are huge and the loses can be huge... if you let them. Joe Copia is not coming over to your house to strong arm you into buying his stocks. Each person has their own responsibility to buy, not buy or sell a stock they are involved in.