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To: jim kelley who wrote (48610)8/1/2000 5:33:10 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625
 
Hi jim kelley; Cool that you ignored the vast majority of my post. Must be pretty accurate, eh?

Anyway, here you go comparing the P4 to DDR, and complaining that there aren't enough DDR systems available for testing.

Lets get the differences between the P4 and DDR straight. The P4 is a processor and involves more than 10x as many transistors, and a much more complicated design. Consequently, the P4 requires a much more significant test program. The P4 has a new instruction set, while DDR runs all the old code. The P4 has to have a new chipset to ship with it, it cannot use the previous generation Intel chipsets. With DDR, the previous processors work fine, so you don't have to change both processor and chipset at the same time.

In short, debugging complicated new hardware, while difficult, is much easier than debugging new complicated software. Software projects involve many more engineers than chip designs do.

And historically, the DDR rollout is looking similar to the PC133 rollout, which was quite successful (and is now supported by Intel). Did you hear about VIA sending out large numbers of beta units before they shipped? No. DDR is similar. The beta units are out there, but you just haven't heard about them.

From the Samsung presentation on DDR, note that they have already shipped 80,000 DDR memory samples. Now we know that not all those went to the PC houses, some of them were no doubt used by the graphics houses and other places. But if even 40,000 chips were absorbed by the PC motherboard makers (like ASUS, Dell, etc.), that is still enough for 5000 DDR DIMMs, and maybe 1000 DDR motherboards. Is that enough for you? How many do you want?

-- Carl