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To: cosmicforce who wrote (84580)	8/1/2000 1:44:34 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

The Foundation of Truth..... >>Newtonian mechanics is also an oversimplification but is still taught to every physics student first because it is useful and, though incomplete, offers tremendous prediction ability. Current physical thought suggests that even Eisteinian mechanics are an oversimplification of a higher truth consisting of multidimensional interactions between fundamental forces. These are layers of an onion and their discovery leads us to an ultimate truth. But in science, we don't have an ultimate truth until every example can be explained within the context of a theory. If you are only saying Darwin is incomplete and therefore, "untrue", I'd would say were are saying the same thing!! By the same definition, Newtonian mechanics is "untrue" but, that clearly doesn't undermine its utility.>> Cosmic Brother: At the core of the onion is nothing. But the layers add up to something. The truth is in the action of peeling back or adding to the layers. And if "we" try to possess/control/claim anything from the exercise we can only "cry." But if we eat and share the pieces and layers we live and add to the level of shared joy. As for Darwin, Newton and Einstein - they were all inspired and humbly in awe of what little if anything they really knew in the end. For what drives all these forces of energy and light? The only thing is something that we can only feel and freely share, but not possess/measure or control: LOVE. Peace. ..........

To: cosmicforce who wrote (84580)	8/3/2000 9:34:13 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I think catastrophism may be making a comeback. Velikovsky had his astronomy wrong, but does an admirable job in attempting to reconstruct ancient history and archeology. No one else has adequately explained the so-called First Dark Age that occurred in the 13th century BC. The Velikovsky affair is interesting because of the vehemence Big Science used in attacking him. Scientists got together and threatened MacMillan with a boycott of their textbooks if they published any more of Velikovsky's popular works. They forced MacMillan to cease publication of a book that was on the best seller list. The leader of the inquisition was Harlow Shipley, Harvard astronomer and otherwise respectable scientist. Carl Sagan's "debate" with him was disgraceful, too. He wisecracked through it, never confronted anything Velikovsky said, and used his verbal skills to ridicule him. Even Sagan's admirers said he acted shamefully.