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To: tekboy who wrote (3342)	8/1/2000 7:37:31 PM
From: John Carragher	Respond to of 10714

my bmw is in for panel display lighting. some of the dots don't light up. Maintenance mentioned ordering a couple of clusters for replacement. Cost of material $1000. car still under warranty. Could it be????

To: tekboy who wrote (3342)	8/1/2000 8:57:53 PM
From: sbaker23	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10714

tekboy--don't think red is Cree's. Red's not where the money is--every Taiwanese startup fab makes them as a commodity. "Passat blue" is Cree's. Here's a relatively mind-boggling blurb from compoundsemiconductor.net a couple of months ago: "Norbert Hiller of Osram Opto Semiconductor focused on interior applications, and pointed out a fascinating movement among car manufacturers – or at least the German ones. Each company is adopting a signature wavelength. Hiller described it as "a sort of color/brand recognition". So whereas all BMWs use 605nm LEDs in their instrument panels, all Audis use 630nm, and Volkswagen has chosen yet another different point in the blue/green spectrum. He showed an example of an Audi model that already uses 300 – 350 LEDs for various types of interior illumination, and noted that studies suggest that this figure could rise to as high as 850 LEDs in just the interior. For this to happen, the LED would have to capture every spot in the car – not just the dashboard, but also the overhead lights, mirror lights, glovebox, locks, trunk, etc. But interior plus exterior use could result in as many as 1,000 LEDs being used in each car - and there are around 60 million cars produced each year." from compoundsemiconductor.net