To: Eric K. who wrote (106640 ) 8/1/2000 9:08:04 PM From: Eric K. Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894 uh oh. Intel toyed with the wrong German... Check out Tom's latest on the P3 1133:tomshardware.com I wonder what sort of spin you tools would like to put on this? If it looks like an overclocked part and acts like an overclocked part, maybe it is an overclocked part! Here's Tom's letter to Intel's pr (he really needs a copy editor, btw)-- <TR><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" BGCOLOR="#F0F0F0"><FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000">Dear Intel PR department,<P>as displeased as you may be with my recent review of the P3 1133 processor, as much you all know that I don't publish my findings of a highly unstable CPU light heartedly.<P>Unfortunately the micro code update that I just received from Asus in form of several new BIOSes for my different motherboards didn't do the trick for me whatsoever. My 1133 MHz sample is utterly unable to finish any benchmark, while my 1 GHz part finishes each test completely reliably in the same platform. I am occurring system hangs on a highly regular basis, completely regardless which software I am running or which platform I am using, although I am even using a heavy duty full copper super duper heat sink.<P>The other strange thing about this processor is the fact that it seems to request 1.8 V through its VID pins, not the official 1.75 V.<P>Altogether my Pentium III 1.13 GHz sample seems to be a clearly faulty part. While this may explain my negative findings and while others seem to have samples that might perform reliably, I know of at least one other person that is also having instability issues with his P3 1133. This is obviously raising a serious question. Is there a major flaw in the validation process of the Pentium III 1133? Doesn't it seem likely that several or even many of those processors are just as faulty as mine, and currently shipping to OEMs? On top of that, I regard it as highly unprofessional to ship a faulty part to a reviewer in the first place. I would have expected that you (Intel PR) double check the reliability of any test sample you ship.<P>I am sure you are aware of the gravity of this issue. It might cost Intel a major face loss if I should not be the only person with a bad 1.13 GHz processor.<P>I expect that you start some kind of investigation and give a rather urgent statement regarding the issue described above. I doubt that you will get away with claiming that Thomas Pabst is unable to test a processor properly. Ignorance of this issue will also most likely backfire at you. I apologize for expressing this warning, but so far I am very displeased with the lack of response from Intel in regards to my negative findings.<P>Sincerely,<P>Dr. Thomas Pabst <BR>CEO & Editor in Chief<BR>Tom's Hardware Guide Inc.<BR>San Jose, CA, USA<BR>www.tomshardware.com<BR>CEO<BR>TG Publishing AG<BR>Munich, Germany<BR>www.tomshardware.de</FONT></TD> -Eric