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To: Frederick Smart who wrote (84611)	8/2/2000 11:46:44 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>Just my opinion, but we can't "master our fears" for fear itself is irrational. All fear must be shed and there's no way "I" have the power to do anything about it other than create/maintain/nurse this defensive/clutching/paranoid stalemate. < I pity people who think they can't master their fears. Lots of irrational things can be mastered. I've had life threatening accidents and remained calm even though I was afraid- that is mastery. I've been afraid for my children but mastered my fears to take control of situations. I don't understand the universe, but I am the master of mine (and my domain, too). I HAVE irrational emotions- but I control them. For example, if we were at a dinner party, and you said this kind of stuff to me, I would have the irrational urge to slap you and bring you to your senses. But instead I would nod politely and get away from you as fast as I could. JMO Do you do this goofy guru stuff in real life, or only here, on the net? >Only by "letting go", risking and stepping out to help others can we experience the transformative energy which repositions our orientation from clutching positions in the darkness to the open/expansive positions in the light. < And this absolutist crap gets really old. There is no "only", in my universe. Any man who thinks he has found the "only" is locked in the straightjacket of his own beliefs and is truly blind. Of course I don't believe that 100%- or I'd be like YOU- it's just my working theory.

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (84611)	8/2/2000 4:12:21 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Excuse me for butting in, FS, but have you ever been in a war zone? Have you ever been shot at -- or had to shoot at someone else yourself? Have you ever sat through a bombing raid, or been rounded up into a concentration camp? I submit that if you don't feel "normal" fear under circumstances like that, you won't live very long. X is quite right; fear can be adaptive. jbe

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (84611)	8/2/2000 7:53:16 PM
From: James R. Barrett	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"For all that matters and all that exists anyway is LOVE." There is no such thing as LOVE. Love is a word invented by humans to define instinctive human behavior. Men and women use the word "love" as a pleasing alternative to what they really mean such as: lust after, financial support, avoid loneliness, someone to do things with. Grown children "love" their parents because they think they owe them something. Young children don't know the meaning of the word because all they can do is take. Nature made them completely self centered for survival purposes. Parents say they "love" their children because society says they are supposed to even though many parents secretly wish they never had children in the first place. "Love" is nothing more than a mutual satisfaction of individual needs. When one of the party's needs are no longer satisfied "love" turns to disappointment, anger and finally dissolution of the relationship.