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To: cosmicforce who wrote (84690)	8/3/2000 3:44:42 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 108807

Harsh Cosmic Reality...... >>Perhaps I was harsh, but it seems that Christians, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses particularly have this edge ( my sister-in-law and my roommate in the Navy were born agains, my cousin a Mormon). My sample is small, but consistent. The pitch basically goes like this: a) I believe therefore it is true b) People are bad and will stay bad until they change c) Bad things will happen to you if you don't stop believing what you believe and start believing what I believe. d) It is my right and duty to get in your face This is not just illogical, it is annoying. I don't have Hindus and Buddhists coming to my door and arguing about what "No Soliciting" means while simultaneously challenging my core beliefs. I'll NEVER come to your house uninvited telling you about the joys of paganism (there are many) while remaining totally ignorant of the meaning of the "No Soliciting" sign on your front door. Religious belief is personal. If I offer it as my opinion, ask me to explain my views. If I tell you it is the only way, tell me to 'get stuffed'. I deserve it. Here is a typical doorway scene: Me : "Yes. There is no soliciting. (I point to the sign)" Them: "I'm not selling anything." Me: "But the sign on the door says 'No Soliciting" Them: "I'm not selling anything." Me: "But that is not what 'soliciting' means. It means ANY pitch or persuasive speech. Them: (blank look) "But I'm here to tell you good news ..." And so on ... So if you feel I whacked you unjustly, first, let me say, your positions are fine. But they are yours and NOT universally true or right for everyone. As long as you remember that I'm sure I can discuss (logically) anything with you. But remember, you are talking to someone who calculates probabilities and makes logical decisions for a living. Unless you have sharable data (like a compelling personal anecdote with pictures of you and Jesus having lunch at Starbucks, with independent witnesses) don't expect your pronunciations to compel me to drop my entire experience and take up yours. Even with pictures and witnesses, if what you say is totally outside my experience, then, well... you're still on thin ice. And, also, don't be repetitive. Once you've made your point move on. Since you only have one book and I have thousands, I don't expect our discourse to last too long.>> Cosmic: There's no need for books. What I, you or anyone else says or believes really doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is LOVE. All that matters is light. All that matters is truth. And since everyone has access to love, light and the truth we don't need Jesus or anyone else rubbing words or beliefs in our noses. Jesus wrote down nothing. His whole ministry was based on actions, period. He didn't need anything else for love has a power greater than any/all books, words, philosophies or other theories made up by mankind. This is just "me" and my belief being reflected in reponse to you, but note that what I say or write really doesn't matter. What matters is what I do to help and serve others. Not for any glory or praise, but for the singular, daily, moment by moment joy of simply radiating and sharing this feeling with others. It's distasteful when I share a feeling with others that has the personal baggage and laundry of superiority mixed in. And I'm sure there are those who read my stuff who believe/think that this is how I come across. But you know what? There is nothing I can to do control others. And it's lost energy worrying or thinking about "why". You have a world view. You have your knowlege. You have your personal history along with the feelings which validate/confirm/support your views and beliefs behind what the world is made up of and all the human nature that mixes into that. You are "right" and completely entitled to claim/control/support/define/possess anything, anywhere, anytime. For you have an unlimited, timeless power and authority which comes from your freewill and the blessing of being given a life which allows you to "be" anything you want. But let's get outside this my and your box for a moment. Let's consider the challenge I posed to others on this board: If I spend the time and risked energy to find a person/platform/cause that your skills would you be interested in joining in a service partnership with me? The focus of light and love is aways away from "me" and "you" - it's on others who we can help together. And if I help others without the help of any individual, I just know that my partner - the second leg - is my God and Jesus. I don't have to get all wrapped up in "right" or "wrong" or with words and religion to get into this model of service with others. We "just do it" period. And, from my perspective, there is ONE word that distills everything down to the core essence of all that matters in living: GO!! Peace. ........ u fill in the blank. NOTE: two mormans came by my house two years ago. I let them in the door. They came back for 4-5 weeks. There was this undisclosed "hook" which I called them on. I was interested in them as individuals. "How can I help and serve these kids?" There are tremendously unfortunate fear-based hooks of guilt in most organized religions, but this does not mean you judge/label them as "bad" or "wrong." For the love and light that INDIVIDUALS share with each other are the only things that really matter. And the ONE individual who set the example for the ages was Jesus. His spirit and light is inside all of us. All it takes is the risk of "letting go" and believing that love - helping and serving others - is the way to all joy, happinness and truth.