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To: Neocon who wrote (84701)8/3/2000 2:00:53 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Quantum mechanics prevents this level of metaphysical certainty, ever. Hence the "many worlds" contingent in QM...

The syllogism notwithstanding, is not a proof but an example of a speculative IF/THEN relationship. What if some men are not mortal, and Socrates is usually a man, then he may or maynot be mortal and maynot even be a man.

This is where logic breaks down. Metaphysical certainty ends and QM-like principles address this as probabilities. So, restating, men are probably mortal (men haven't found the fountain of youth yet), Socrates is probably a man (and hasn't undergone a sex change), therefore, Socrates is probably mortal (he could be a woman and women have found the fountain of youth). This probability is calculable based upon the other probabilities in the relationship chain (a Markov Chain).

A and B = pr(A) x pr(B) = pr(c)

So knowledge is never absolute in our universe but only a matter of what is its relative likelihood.

This is a much more accurate description of how we "know" things that the syllogism would lead us to believe. We really can't know crap about men or Socrates, except as a probability.



To: Neocon who wrote (84701)9/4/2000 4:53:27 AM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
But you have to prove that major premise. Was Jesus a man? Was Jesus mortal? You are just playing with words.