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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (84879)	8/4/2000 10:43:55 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

If The Light Is On..... ME >>>Someone walks into a dark room lights a roman candle and you get all wacked out.>> YOU >>OK- you are telling Steven (and all the rest of us) that we are in a dark room. But someone- let's be honest now, you mean YOU, walks into the room we are in and lights a "Roman candle". Do you not see how insulting this is too Steven, and the rest of us? And what an EGO for YOU to claim you can light a candle for us?>> X: If the lights already on then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Let's face the cold, brutal facts. And don't take this personally. When there's darkness, I'm NOT referring to anyone or anything "personally" - this is where so much misunderstanding seems to begin. Someone making a statement about a feeling or belief. Others interpreting that statement from a personal perspective as if to "infer" there's been a negative judgement cast. Wrong. The "darkness" I'm speaking of is that which separates us - one from another. I'm not saying "I", "you" or anyone have a monopoly on "light", "wisdom", "knowledge" or love, etc. It's simply s-e-p-a-r-a-t-i-o-n in all it's confusing, perverted dark glory. You are you. You have energy, light, love, etc. In fact you have an unlimited amount of this. I am making no claim or judgment about this to the contrary. If anything I am jumping up and down like a little kid believing that this world is so great and special and bright and hopful that I just believe we can all "play ball" on the same field, swim in the same river, breath the same air. As far as me insulting you and others, I know exactly what you are referring to, but I can't do anything to control how you and others feel. If there's judgment in the air and people want to knock, kill or simply "get this guy outta here" then I'm sorry, but I forgive you. And when I mention "forgiveness" there goes the anger meter again. So let's just reduce this to one, simple point. If there's anger and separation, there must be darkness somewhere. And if sharing and reaching out - my roman candle - causes more anger and separation, this doesn't mean I'm "right" and everyone else is "wrong". It just means choices have been made about how we feel. I just chose not to respond with anger and instead will always try to reach out, connect, help, serve and overcome. >>See, number one we'd have to be idiots wouldn't we? After all here we would be sitting in the dark and NOT KNOWING it. Until you lit your candle, of course, and TOLD us about it. Because I don't believe any of us ever discussed being in the dark. So I don't think any of the regulars here think we WERE/ARE in the dark before FS. But you make the judgment that you have walked into a "dark room".>> X, you are in your "light". Why should the fact that I share my "light" freely anger you or anyone. Unless of course you don't want to close the separation between us. You have your light, I have mine, others have theirs. When we bring more of our personal light together I just think we'll find that we all share the same source, period. If you don't believe we share the same source then that's your right. You are not "wrong" to believe this. It's your choice. I just happen to believe in closing gaps and anything that separates us. Light does this better than any force in the universe. We each have the power of light/love and I just chose to embrace and share mine this way. If you think this is offensive then the separation will continues by your judgment. >>Further you have the ego to think you have lit it up. For me, and I can't speak for anyone else, your posts are almost unreadable. Half the time I really can't tell what you are trying to say. Some of the mushy phrases you use could mean anything. Language is imprecise, but you've really honed that imprecision to almost complete incomprehensibiltiy.>> I guess this is what happens when you just don't stand in the same place on the shoreline all the time. I'm in the river, moving all the time and I don't claim to control the power which is moving me. As for me lighting "my" roman candle, you bet I lit the match. But it's not my fire and the energy simply comes from within. We all have this energy. Why get angry over one person lighting a match to ignite fuel that we all have to begin with? >>I'm not angry with you. I'm not afraid of you. I'm not even afraid of your ideas- whatever they might be, although I might not agree with them if I knew exactly what they were. It's a cool trick attacking people who don't agree with you with that fear stuff, and the hate stuff. Goodness, you even tried it on Rambi. This is a well lighted room, with many tables, and many interesting people in it. There is light coming from everywhere. In fact I would guess that we ALL think we are bringing our OWN light, to a place that was already well lit to begin with. My goodness FS, it's BLINDING in here. Perhaps you are afraid to see our light? Perhaps some fear keeps you seeing darkness in this well lighted place? heeheehee>> We are speaking the same language X. It is BLINDING in here. I acknowlege the timeless light and love we ALL have at this common table. But if there's a separation or misunderstanding, you can't fault me for trying to address it. And if you think I'm "attacking people" then there's just more evidence of this separation. Darkness separates all of us until we "let go" and "see." I'm "letting go" and praying for answers to bridge this gap - even if there's a bunch of folks who could care less. Here's one last question: What value would anyone's Roman Candle be on a clear sunny day. Just as valuable, but since the light of the sun overpowers and overcomes the darkness the feelings of separation disappear. This does not mean that we turn off our personal "lights". If just means that there's more light to celebrate. We should celebrate light/energy - not judge it. Your light is shining in this interchange. I respect and appreciate it. Peace. .