To: silversoldier a/k/a SI Sy who wrote (2399 ) 8/5/2000 5:38:48 PM From: Rich Wolf Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3376 Improvements in VoIP recently: (cross-posts from yahoo)messages.yahoo.com Skyhi111 - Cisco does lots of VoIP work by: mvpel (29/M/San Jose, CA) 8/5/00 1:06 pm Msg: 82172 of 82256 Currently it seems to be mainly aimed at situations where someone can install 100% Cisco hardware, such as within a company WAN. But they're developing standards and schemes to allow just what you're saying. Right now, the latency of the Internet backbones has dwindled rather precipitously with the availability of OC-48c, 2+ gigabit fiber-optic links and whatnot. I remember telnetting over the internet in 1988 when I could type about two sentences before I started getting my echo characters back. That hasn't happened in years... I think also that IPv6, once that starts spreading across the internet, will be a big enabler of VoIP technologies. That has a wish-list of things that IPv4 doesn't have, such as more extensive packet-priority headers, encryption hooks, etc. Current IP does have a weighting scheme in the "type of service" header field, but it's not often abided by in the routers: The Type of Service provides an indication of the abstract parameters of the quality of service desired. These parameters are to be used to guide the selection of the actual service parameters when transmitting a datagram through a particular network. Several networks offer service precedence, which somehow treats high precedence traffic as more important than other traffic (generally by accepting only traffic above a certain precedence at time of high load). The major choice is a three way tradeoff between low-delay, high-reliability, and high-throughput. Bits 0-2: Precedence. Bit 3: 0 = Normal Delay, 1 = Low Delay. Bits 4: 0 = Normal Throughput, 1 = High Throughput. Bits 5: 0 = Normal Relibility, 1 = High Relibility. --------------------------------------------messages.yahoo.com mvpel..thanks for the help Mike... by: blue_cobra_too (18/M/San Diego CA) 8/5/00 2:23 pm Msg: 82183 of 82259 in addition Cisco is using RSVP protocols, which effectively reerve a "chunk" of bandwidth for an application. (this is called a tunnel or sleeve). csco then uses that sleeve for voice traffic, managing the QOS to make VoIP work (and fairly well based on my experiences 9 months ago). lemf63 brought up Sonus, and I think they have a good product the problem will be acceptance within the Service Provider marketplace. SP's tend to be very conservative (5 9's and all that) so I wonder about a *new* entry...FWIW ------------------------------------------------------