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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (28182)	8/6/2000 11:08:31 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Hey thanks for posting that info on Ben... ..no arrogance or ignorance hanging out here though. Your posts on quotes by Ben Franklyn are illuminating especially his: "Whoever shall introduce into public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the world." Guess your ---->"in" like flint there, my child . What you will have to get over is there --->"is" no mention of a christian God ,ever. The referance to a Creator or Nation under a "christian" God... sorry. ..... these men had a vision shared by many learned and thinking Men of their times of a deep conviction to the wonders and mysteries of life ,laying to be observed just beneath the surface of Nature. It had been done centuries before by the learned, wise and ancient Greeks. They were out to pursue and discover more if they could , without fetters, and the tyranny of small minded religious beliefs and petty ceasars.....when they refered to " The Creator"....just as jesus "the man " set out to do. It was the god of all the ages ....think you missed the boat, prolife, when they were handing out the keys to life . Their's was a vaster vision , than you can imagine. So where does Ben Franklyn refer to jesus as the true son of god? I don't see it. He does , as a philosopher and true anthropologist refer to a "primitive christianity" maybe helpful in changing the face of the world. (does this mean he left you out?) BTW: centuries and millenea before that rabbi walked the sea of gallilea, there were the ideals of "christian beliefs" of love alive in the world . get over it , such learned men as Ben franklyn could see thru the hysteria of people such as you , and like I still rejoice in the fact that truth is Universal, eternal and there for all to discover ,live,and be pursued....without bowing down to any "King of Kings" nonsense. If i allow myself to have fondness and love for Jesus "the man" or philosopher , i choose to do so like Ben Franklyn...with eyes wide open in the light of what he taught that touches my sensibilties.... of his thoughts....but i wont make him into --->just another "Ceasar" , such as men like you....to rule some earthly kingdom, sorry. to many wars fought on that premise , too much suffering. Just as easy to share his teachings without all that nonsense. regardless of where any pray or what they call themselves....as long as they were free of tyranny....and oppresive laws, dogma, and narrowness. It is easy to see that Franklyn percieved jesus to be simply a man , rabbi, philosopher who came upon truth as all men can ....whether they are called christian or no. welcome to America....founding fathers were very deep and subtle , eh? ;-)