To: dave rose who wrote (3988 ) 8/11/2000 10:58:10 PM From: Jim S Respond to of 13060 Well, Dave, if it really IS your airplane, then you have all the justification needed to keep anyone you want off the craft; unless, of course, it is a common conveyance, such as the airlines (and trains and busses) are. In that case, you DO NOT have the right to keep people from using your transportation mode for unconstitutional reasons (like race, age, religion, or carrying arms). [see the 1st, 2nd, and 14th amendments] Only an idiot would assume that someone carrying a weapon does so for nefarious purposes. The fact of the matter is that with very rare exceptions, people who carry arms do so for the PROTECTION of others, not to HARM them. If half the passengers on an airliner were packing heat, there would NEVER be a hijacking. As to the question of "what weapons are 2nd amendment 'arms' that can be 'kept and born,'" the Supremes have already answered that -- any arms that are commonly and frequently carried by US infantry. [see US v. Miller, 1936] These are the arms that can be considered "used by a militia." Thus, machine guns and fully automatic weapons (like the M-16) are covered under the Constitution for the "keep and bear" criteria. However, it is very unlikely that the Supremes will get another chance to narrow their ruling, because the Firearms Act of '34 as amended by the Gun Control Act of '86 have enough other provisions that enable LEOs to keep the whole question away from another test, which would almost certainly strike down all gun laws at a national level. If you'd like to learn more, something besides the crap propaganda that the national media feeds you, join the NRA. I promise, we are mostly good guys, and we don't rob banks or hijack airplanes. jim