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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (36698)	8/13/2000 12:23:57 AM
From: Gottfried	Respond to of 70976

Brian and all, Vanguard has a brief slide show 'Market Perspective'. vanguard.com Slide #5 shows the percentage of valuation due to valuation expansion, earnings growth and return from income. Worth seeing. Just click 'Market Perspective' on the site. Hint: more than half comes from valuation expansion. Gottfried

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (36698)	8/13/2000 10:39:11 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 70976

"However, looking at the patterns of smoking in and of themselves, one cannot maintain that cigarettes are a causal factor in cancers, when done in moderation." Brian, please keep supplying us with semi info not this junk. Please define moderation-2 cigarettes a day, 10, 20. Maybe at 2, I would agree with you. But remember, nicotine is addictive so once you start, your consumption goes up because of the addiction. Or do you claim as the tobacco companies once did, that nicotine is not addictive? I was an ex-addict who over the last several years lost 2 close friend to lung cancer. Your post was written by the tobacco company lawyers 20 years ago. Even they don't repeat this crap. Shame on you.

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (36698)	8/13/2000 12:46:46 PM
From: Alan Gallaspy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Big Time OT Brian, Let me first say that I enjoy and look forward to your posting regarding AMAT and semi equip stocks. Now, I feel I have to de-lurk and put in my two cents worth as a professional toxicologist, you really do not know what you are talking about. To state that consuming about 20 ng of benzo[a]pyrene per cig, even when done in moderation, is not a causal factor in over 100,000 totally preventable cancer deaths is sheer idiocy. This only demonstrates that you, like millions of others, have been duped by tobacco companies that their product is much safer than it really is. That said, I realize that the consumption of tobacco is a legal activity that, at least at first, is a choice knowingly made by the individual involved. Just do not uncritically swallow the propaganda sponsored by companies that have a huge interest in keeping their addicted customers puffing away. For further more or less unbiased information that is fairly concise, factual yet not overly technical, I would refer you to the chapter on nicotine in A Primer of Drug Action by Robert Julian, available in most big bookstores and university libraries. I apologize in advance for my harsh sounding criticism, and will quietly go back to lurking and consuming my own favorite drugs, caffeine and ethyl alcohol. I just hope that my voluntary consumption of fatty foods does not prematurely end my enjoyment of the posts here on this thread.