To: bob who wrote (31947 ) 8/14/2000 8:44:43 AM From: Rande Is Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 57584 Bob, As you have shown, I've been totally up front about my intentions, with regard to another site. The clipping you posted has been on my SI profile for nearly a year. Everyone knows my intent. Insighters.com will be very inexpensive. . .closer to $10/mo than $20. Everyone will be included. . . But it is not a guru site. . . .and the amount I will actually take home will be very small. And incidentally, thanks for digging up that old post by TokyoJoe, the most popular internet guru ever. That endorsement he gave to me was unique. . .there weren't many people he actually liked and respected. I doubt you'll find another post like it on SI. Thanks for the memory. Now, Bob. If you took a few seconds to consider my real motivation before spewing out misguided accusations. . . or if you bothered to ask Brice or myself why I was upset about a non-regular promoting an unknown location here, you would have been told by either of us that I am against all forms of trading cannibalism. Trading Cannibalism is when newbies and other inexperienced traders are "invited" to join a private chatroom or the like , so that they will join in the momentum buying and "do what they are told". . . for the purpose of being sold into by the leaders of the chatroom, etc. I have always been outspoken about Cannibalism. I coined the term. And I have always seen it as a sort of responsibility in running this thread to look out for the best interest of all readers. So by protecting newbies and inexperienced traders from the sharks, wolves and cannibals of most every chatroom I've seen on the mIRC. . . I am doing my job. Speaking of my job, Bob. This is it. For nearly 20 months I have been here every single day. . .even while on vacation. . . steering folks away from pitfalls and educating thousands of new traders. . .absolutely free of charge. And I am not the least bit ashamed of finally looking forward to getting a paycheck for the thousands of hours [and 10,000 posts so far] for the purpose of advancing the Individual Investor/Trader. And frankly, YOU should be ashamed for the suggestion. I've spent every dime I have, plus taken loans out to pay for the design of Insighters. 2 years ago I married a girl with 4 kids, 2 of which are now applying to colleges and would like me to pay, since their fathers are dead-beats. And believe me, they deserve the best colleges, though they'll be happy with whatever they get. Meanwhile, the music composition and T-shirt design royalties which have kept me going since giving up my business in California. . so I could offer the kids a safer, smarter and hopefully better life in Tennessee. . . have all but dried up. . . And if you, or anyone like you, thinks I came from money and that money is my motivation or love, you could not be more wrong. My dad was an insurance agent with Prudential for 30 years. . . do you know what they made? First year public school teachers make more. And for the entire 8 years it took for me to finish 7 years of college, I worked until 1am, 2am ,3am or even sunrise. . . in smelly, nightclubs. . choking from the second hand fumes of disgusting cigarette smoke. . .and setting 2 alarms in my car where I spent my breaks . . . so that if I fell asleep while doing homework assignments and slept through the first alarm, the second one would wake me for my next set. . .often the only sleep I got. . . . since classes always started at 8AM. . . So Bob. . . .I don't know how easy you've had things in your life, but I've always had to work HARDER than many people can even imagine. AND I STILL DO!!! Then people like you come along and demand my time requiring me to write ridiculous posts as this. . . which detract from my Due Diligence time. . . which hurts the entire thread. And in the recording studio, I have worked until sunrise more than a thousand times. . . yet still made it back on time for a 10AM call. So when it comes to trying to make a dime, I have nothing to be ashamed. But you Bob. . . should be ashamed for your near-sighted, misinformed, prejudiced, petty accusations. Brice has admitted both publicly and privately that he was "out of line" coming here and advertising a chatroom that I knew nothing about. . . and could not possibly endorse without first attending. So your point is moot. . . Give it up and move along. Respectfully, Rande Is