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To: semiconeng who wrote (5044)8/15/2000 12:33:55 AM
From: Chung LeeRespond to of 275872
 
Semicon ))))A yield of 48%, doesn't sound too good to me....Now THAT'S what I call Education.

Semicon, you mean to tell me AMD was only able to make one good dollar bill for every two printed, geez I was hoping for two out of three, well I hope they improve soon, :-) in the mean time I urge AMD to just print more, which Jerry had promised to do and he repeated that promise this morning, I was a little upset with him when he told the world he was going to sell every good dollar bill for 60 cents, but that old Jerry came thru again when he also said he will start printing two-dollar bills (1.1GHz) in two weeks.



To: semiconeng who wrote (5044)8/15/2000 1:10:09 AM
From: milo_moraiRespond to of 275872
 
<font color=orange>Educating SemiCon!SuSE to help AMD bring Linux to Sledgehammer
By Stephen Shankland and Michael Kanellos
Staff Writers, CNET News.com
August 14, 2000, 7:00 p.m. PT
AMD has hired SuSE to help bring Linux to its upcoming 64-bit Sledgehammer chip, the companies will announce tomorrow.

The move closely mirrors the approach taken by AMD's rival, Intel, which has funded VA Linux Systems and helped other companies to bring Linux to its upcoming 64-bit Itanium chip.


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Sledgehammer is one of AMD's most ambitious projects to date. The chip will run software designed for 32-bit processors, such as Intel's Pentium III and AMD's Athlon, as well as software for 64-bit chips, a class of processors that includes Sun Microsystems' UltraSparc, Compaq Computer's Alpha and Intel's upcoming Itanium.

Moving to 64-bit chips--as long as there's an operating system and other software that can take advantage of it--enables the use of much larger databases and other advantages. For moving to 64-bit chips, though, the companies have chosen different paths.

Intel has chosen to develop a completely new language called IA-64 for communicating with Itanium and later 64-bit chips. Sledgehammer, though, uses an architecture AMD calls x86-64, an extension of Intel's 32-bit architecture.

In order to run on these new chips, though, Linux and its accompanying programming tools must know how to speak the chips' native tongues. AMD began releasing details on how to communicate with Sledgehammer earlier this week.

SuSE programmer Jan Hubicka has produced the first versions of programming tools necessary to develop Linux and other software for Sledgehammer. Other companies involved in AMD's x86-64 effort included Code Sorcery, which has experience in programming tools, as well as the scientific and technical computing firm Portland Group, and others.


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Do your own research Aaron Dancygier
Way to go AMD!!! Finally something other than intel David D.

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SuSE, a German company that is one of the four major sellers of the Unix-like operating system, plans to hold an initial public offering, chief technology officer Dirk Hohndel has said.

With its primary use on servers today Linux could provide a new way for AMD to attack the business market.

To date, AMD's chips have been used almost exclusively in consumer computers. With the upcoming Mustang chip and Sledgehammer, however, the company will try to enter the market for corporate desktops and servers.

AMD is already gaining peripheral penetration into the corporate market. Net Express, a small server and workstation specialist in the Bay Area, has sold single processor Athlon servers running Linux to a number of established companies, said Roland Baker, Net Express CEO.

The 32- and 64-bit designation refers to the amount of data that a processor can handle in a single instruction: the larger the number, the more information the chip can digest in one gulp. With 64-bit chips, server makers also can incorporate much more memory in their machines, the key feature for speeding up access to large databases.

Sledgehammer will use the same basic instruction set as the Athlon but will contain features that allow the chip to run 64-bit programs. As a result, software makers only need to retrofit their existing programs, not write completely new ones.

"This is the conservative step approach. It is not a major disruption," said Bob Mitton, division marketing manager at AMD earlier this month. "If it's not broke, why fix it?" news.cnet.com

LOL

At this Rate AMD will have more support than Itanic. It to 7 years to build a 1/2 page list.

Milo



To: semiconeng who wrote (5044)8/15/2000 3:17:02 PM
From: milo_moraiRespond to of 275872
 
<font color=Green>This site, supported by AMD, is dedicated to porting GNU/Linux to AMD's new x86-64 architecture. Eventually, you'll be able to download complete GNU/Linux distributions for x86-64 from this site. For now, there's technical documentation about the architecture and mailing lists for discussing x86-64 GNU/Linux. In the near future, there will be an architecture simulator as well as experimental versions of GCC and binutils that can generate 64-bit x86-64 code.
x86-64.org

Educational LOL!

Milo