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To: jbe who wrote (85419)	8/15/2000 11:17:53 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

People who have their own opinions, and are cognizant of the nature of "opinioness" are ALWAYS going to bridle at people who come along spouting anything as gospel, and who offer opinions as if they were some sort of concrete object that everyone could agree on. Even if I agreed with everything Mr. Smart says (and I don't- although since it's fairly general and incomprehensible, all at the same time, who KNOWS what it really means?) I wouldn't like the presentation.

To: jbe who wrote (85419)	8/15/2000 11:35:50 AM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 108807

Actually, people seem to have no trouble debating me! But it was a nice thought... FT

To: jbe who wrote (85419)	8/15/2000 11:50:55 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

jbe...... >>One more view of "Internet Time": fastcompany.com For example. Fred, I think it would help if you were to introduce your remarks with qualifications such as the following: In my opinion/ it seems to me/some people argue -- and I agree -- / perhaps/ possibly/ I like to think that/ etc. etc. Has it occurred to you that one of the reasons folks here tend to react negatively to your messages is that the latter are couched in such absolute, brook-no-contradiction, terms? It's impossible to debate a sermon, after all.>> When you embrace Internet Time, all these relative judgments which we used to dance around and hide behind drop away. Light is light. Energy is energy. Nothing "I" say or do makes one iota of difference unless it's in reference to light and energy. For "I" am not trying to claim, possess, control, argue, define, restrict anything. I am simply sharing ideas which are a form of energy. How people react or think or weigh or consider or get pissed off should not have any bearing on what "I" share/do/feel. The further I retreat into time and relativism the more couched/sujective/conditionalized/frozen things become. Sure we can all retreat from the present moment, take less and less or no risks, but less and less of what we share has any impact for there is less energy, etc. If you think I am preaching then forgive me and then forgive yourself for thinking this way. I have not interest in doing anything other than sharing energy and ideas. However these are received is beyond my control. But I will tell you one thing: I forgive myself, you and others for any separation between us. For the more I forgive the more I have the opportunity to embrace the energy and timelessness of the present moment. And I forgive myself and you for appearing to preach. I'd much rather sing. Peace. .

To: jbe who wrote (85419)	8/15/2000 11:52:17 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 108807

jbe.... Thanks for the link. Peace. . =============================== Subj: Internet Time..... Date: 8/15/00 10:42:31 AM Central Daylight Time From: FKSmart To: sb@gbn.org CC: lweil@ix.netcom.com >>Time to Slow Down? The thinker: Stewart Brand, founder, the "Whole Earth Catalog." The setting: the Long Now Foundation, San Francisco, California. The question: how can we make the world safe for Internet time? by Elizabeth Weil photographs by Kathrin Miller from FC issue 34, page 392 Stewart Brand -- '60s whole-earth philosopher, '80s new-media chronicler, '90s new-economy consultant -- is stirring his coffee with a hunting knife, telling us that we ought to slow down. He's dressed comfortably, in jeans and a rough-hewn burnt-orange shirt, and he's talking about his current obsession -- time, speed, the ever-accelerating pace of life -- while sitting next to a prototype of what promises to be the world's strangest clock. ( That timepiece, called the Clock of the Long Now, will tick once a year, gong once a century, and cuckoo once a millennium. ) Brand, 62, is moving at his own sweet pace, pausing to think for 10 or 20 seconds before he answers each of my questions. fastcompany.com; Stewart: Someone on the Silicon Investor "Let's Talk About Our Feelings" thread shared your Fast Company interview with Mr. Weil. I'm an entrepreneur who thinks we are on the right track. Time really doesn't exist. Internet Time is just making this fact apparent to more and more people. Einstein would feel right at home. An incredible thought, but everything has already been done - past, present and future. And even more incredible, we still have our free will. The Internet is simply the first example of this Age of Light which is forcing us to embrace more risk in order to embrace the present in order to realize our power to do ONE thing: LOVE one another. Don't worry about speeding things up. Our feelings of aggrivation and angst will give way to joy and happiness. Things are coming along just as they should. Fred Smart The Connectivity Group, LLC Smart Bandwidth, LLC www.smartbandwidth.com www.tcgtelecom.com 888-606-9379 //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Subj: Internet Time.... Date: 8/15/00 9:31:41 AM Central Daylight Time From: fred@smartbandwidth.com To: fksmart@aol.com Hello: Here's a brief walk away from time. Internet Time is leading mandkind on a collision course with the present moment. Shared over on Yahoo and SI this morning. Peace. Fred /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// To: Steven Rogers who wrote (85342) From: Frederick Smart Tuesday, Aug 15, 2000 10:22 AM ET Reply # of 85415 Steven......