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To: Tony Viola who wrote (5363)	8/17/2000 11:38:23 AM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 275872

Tony, Pete, does anyone really buy those Kryotech things? Maybe they had some hoo-hah attention getting appeal several hundred megahertz ago, but who'd spend extra money and complexity on an electromechanical/cooling contraption when you can get air cooled 1 GHz anyway? I heard they might not be doing too well, this off their website: Dell sells overclocked Pentium 1 GHz and 1.13 GHz based systems. Kryotech announced that they will sell 1.2 and 1.5 GHz based systems shortly. I guess the same people who buy the fast Dell systems may opt for faster Kryotech systems. I heard they might not be doing too well, this off their website: KryoTech's Direct Public Offering has now closed. If you have any questions concerning KryoTech investments, please contact Alice Peyton. I don't think thy have a product to sell. They used to sell systems with AMD chips overclocked to 1 GHz. But you can buy these everywhere. Re: Public offering being closed I believe it means that they already got enough investors to sell all the shares that were offered, and you can no longer buy directly. Joe

To: Tony Viola who wrote (5363)	8/17/2000 11:47:02 AM
From: pgerassi	Respond to of 275872

Dear Tony: Re: Kyrotech cooled AMD Athlons When they came out with 1G AMD Athlons, the fastest shipping Athlon was 750 MHz and P3 was at 733MHz. At that time, workstation users were hungary for these CPUs as they carried the full AMD 1yr warranty. They used the Irongate 750 chipset at the time and easily out ran any other x86 CPU. It was their problem with not keeping up, that led to the situation seen here. Now they are updating to Socket A, allow for anyone's motherboard to be used (if they have the holes by the CPU as seen on many current motherboards), and thus allow for the typical 30 to 40% overclock to be as stable as the best air cooled systems. They have also dropped the cost of the cooling system to a lower level (I believe less than a $500 premium). Thus, a $360 Tbird@950 plus $500 becomes a $860 Tbird@1.375G, or a $873 Tbird@1.1G becomes a $1,373 Tbird@1.54G. Since simulations can run for days, and these could shave off say 25 to 30% of that, it would be easy to justify $500 more. Heck, Intel charges you $300 for a simple 66 Mhz premium (at the high end). Thus, 400 Mhz should be worth $1,800 easy (if not more). For the difference, you could get 2 Tbirds@1.54G for one air cooled one. Pete