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To: Neocon who wrote (85792)8/19/2000 1:26:31 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
That's why it is essential to separate dogma from measurable truth. I'm not a fan of Great Society . At least with the New Deal some lasting and profoundly good civil engineering came out of it. And there was a myriad of programs, some which worked, some which didn't. Great Society - it mostly sucked. It hasn't worked and was based way too much faith without enough empirical data to back it up. This was centralized secular "faith" in a prescription purporting to be a "remedy".

Where were the "clinical trials"? Where were the competing plans? Where is the statistical data? People are too impatient to wait for clear statistics so you have to try several different approaches (at least the New Deal did this) and cull out what works from what doesn't in an ad hoc manner. Where huge differences exist, like hispanics vs. blacks, one policy, agency and approach is not going to help both groups equally well.



To: Neocon who wrote (85792)8/19/2000 2:34:56 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
The dreadful irony is that as discrimination lessened, and opportunity increased, the rate of illegitimate births and marital breakdown among blacks sky rocketed, more people became chronically unemployed in the inner city, drug abuse increased, and so did violence.

You see this in the Balkans too. There was a much lower tolerance for outcry of any kind when you are held in place by an authoritarian regime. It's hard to argue that the Balkans are better off now with the Soviet influence out. That's where dogma must stop -- what was it about the Soviet presence that stabilized it? Repression can produce order and the removal, chaos. That is strange, but true.