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To: long-gone who wrote (57428)	8/19/2000 7:14:50 PM
From: Rarebird	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116764

Again, your generalizing, Richard. Each religion, as practiced, takes on many forms. What matters most is not so much the nature of the belief, but the attitude of the individual as he or she lives his or her life. If one becomes a prisoner to one's belief and forgets that there are other viable belief systems out there, then one can become dogmatic or totalitarian in relation to other people and humanity. Richard, the people who possess the strongest and most thoughtful Faiths', know darn well that they may be wrong, so they back off from imposing it on other people. "Gold Bug" is also a Religious Faith that needs to question its premises and consider that other forms of Money exist outside of Gold.

To: long-gone who wrote (57428)	8/19/2000 8:32:56 PM
From: goldsheet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

RE: Destroyer of Worlds There is a new invention called a "paragraph" It makes long posts easier (possible) to read <grin> There was some good stuff in the article, but it was hard to find !

To: long-gone who wrote (57428)	8/20/2000 12:19:41 AM
From: Lee Lichterman III	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

OT I think the author of that piece must be some high school drop out logger that won't be happy till he cuts down the last tree. <g> That article is full of inaccuracies. I find it hard to believe that Hitler opened the first Nature preserve when Teddy Roosevelt was doing so a long time before Hitler was even in diapers. I have bit my tongue more than a few times when I have seen posts about this anti nature stuff here since it was off topic but let us get real. There are a million arguements for trying to save some wilderness for both enjoyment and for our kids to be able to see wildlife in some other setting than a concrete zoo. The only arguement I have ever seen for the anti environmental movement is because some high school drop out has no skill that is marketable other than being able to operate a chain saw. Hey, I am sorry if some logger with 3 teeth in his head is going to lose his job but I guess he should have stayed in school and learned to have a job skill that didn't involve destroying our future. Since I will get slammed for this post I am sure, I may as well add to the ammo by saying that enjoying the quiet outdoors and sounds of nature doesn't involve tearing up things with 4 wheel drives and quadrunners either. The world needs programmers, scientists, doctors, teachers and even burger flippers. With all the factories and chain stores unable to find laborers, I think that the loggers can find a job in the tightest labor market of the last 30 years if they try. They obviously think the rest of the country is as dumb as they are. As usual, they are wrong. Good Luck, Lee PS - I have finalized the closure of a few closed roads my self in the past few years after getting tired of having to navigate through giant ruts caused by monster truck want to be's. It is amazing how fast truck drivers with IQs in the single digits figure out that a closed road means closed for real after you put a few spikes down in puddles to flatten all thier tires then call the conservation department to come get them. PSS - Comparing something to the Nazi era Germany isnt always a bad thing either. We copied our interstate system on the Nazi Highway system. While we were using Hitler's anti smoking campaign as proof of how crazy he was, look where we are now in regards to smoking. Guess we were the dumb ones after all being 50 years late to admitting it wasn't so glamourous after all. NASA wouldn't exist if we didn't smuggle a few Nazis out and god only knows how far behind we would be in our medical research if we didn't also get the lessons learned from all those medical experiments that were done on teh Jews in the concentration camps. Truth isnt pretty and it is rarely just, but some of the greatest advances have come from the most horrific acts of man acting at their worst. Transplantation of limbs and organs was learned from a Japanese torture specialist and the ill affects of colesterol were first discovered by the operations on Korean war soldiers. ( Doctors kept wondering why the veins of our strongest meat and egg eating soldiers were always clogged when the Korean's veins were clean as a whistle living on rice and vegetables. )