To: RWS who wrote (32529 ) 8/21/2000 9:31:39 AM From: GROUND ZERO™ Respond to of 50167 OT - RWS, >>Those who don't face those facts and just call for harsher penalties delay facing up to reality of our society, and thus participate in perpetuating the situation. << I agree with you completely, don't misconstrue my earlier post as an 'only one way or the other' approach... there are clearly very deep social ills all the way down to the core... still, I so often hear pity cried for the offender and nothing on behalf of the poor victim who's life is scarred and marred because of another's criminal wrongdoing... two things: 1) stop the revolving door, and 2) provide restitution to the victims in some form of satisfaction (which may, in fact, actually be more severe punishment for the offender)... for the victim to know that justifiable punishment has been metered out to the offender is part of the healing process for the victim..... sorry, but I will have to speak for the victims, many of whom are now dead and buried and cannot speak for themselves (not to ignore the victimization of the family and loved ones who are also senselessly traumatized as a result).....>>No wonder there's no room to keep the "real" criminals. The criminalization of drugs is only useful for suppressing social discontent and confuses the issue of criminality. The administration of drug enforcement, sentencing, and executions is unquestionably racially biased. << Yes, I agree with you here also... in fact, the suppression of our social discontent by criminalizing the actions of arbitrary segments of our population is indeed a major contributing factor of the social ills we see today..... No, I've never been a victim, thank God, but I think more compassion needs to be spent on the victims and their families than to take pity on the criminal just because the offender's mother hit him when he was two years old, or some other benign excuse for taking pity on the criminal and ignoring the trauma to the victim in these cases..... GZ