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To: Michael M who wrote (85916)8/21/2000 10:04:04 AM
From: Father Terrence  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Change that to read: "We need a less anti-individual government."

FT



To: Michael M who wrote (85916)8/21/2000 10:06:47 AM
From: Tom Clarke  Respond to of 108807
 
Right you are, perspicacious as always.

Did you read the music review in Friday's WSJ of the four CDs by Latin women singers? Check out this comment about Virginia Rodrigues, ..."she is a singer of exceptional power and ceaseless beauty. Her sonorous contralto is absolutely stunning and she employs it with delight"...I'll be stepping out to the record store after that one. They also reviewed CDs by Bebel Gilberto, Susana Baca, and Omara Portuondo (of Buena Vista Social Club fame)



To: Michael M who wrote (85916)8/21/2000 10:09:42 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
This is much more complicated than just a government gone "anti people". The government doesn't usually KNOW about a lemonade stand unless a citizen calls about it. Why would a citizen call about it? TRAFFIC, for one thing. People swooping over to the side of the road to stop at a kids lemonade stand can be dangerous- especially on busier streets. The government is there to protect people from nuisances and a lemonade stand could certainly be a nuisance.

I think kids handling food is just gross. I always stop and give them money but I don't ever take what they are selling- unless it's something like lemons. I don't care if no kid ever gets to set up a lemonade stand ever again. It isn't like there aren't other things they can do to generate income- and lemonade stands often cost more for the parent than they bring in- so it isn't as if these things are revenue generating devices for poor families. They are time killers for middle class and upper middle class kids- which doesn't make them wrong per se- it just makes them a total non-issue for me.

I realize SOME people here might look at lemonade stands with a haze of nostalgia- but it makes them neither worthy of saving nor very important. Big picture? I can imagine a lot of reasons why the citizenry might not want a lemonade stand on the block and why someone might drop a dime to get rid of one. Citizens have every right to do that. Every group YOU think is anti people is merely anti ONE group of people. There is almost always another group. So while the government is anti lemonade stand people (without sinks and business permits) it is pro the group of people who wish to restrict lemonade stands- and I guarantee you there are members in that group who are also people, and citizens.

Who will win the lemonade stand fight? Whoever has the most support and the political will to fight it. I know I'll be deeply concerned about this issue for a long long while.



To: Michael M who wrote (85916)8/21/2000 10:24:06 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 108807
 
I like that formulation......