To: tejek who wrote (122618 ) 8/21/2000 3:54:30 PM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571898 OT What would be more convinceing to me then the examples you give would be solid evidence of a very stong global warming trend, based on historical tempature readings, that starts when human CO2 production began to take off and continues straight through to today and that is enough above the normal year to year or decade to decade fluctioations to make it clear that it is a trend not random change. Such evidence simply does not exist. The historical tempature record is very short (compared with what would be need to establish a good baseline for any analysis), has several factors that greatly reduce its reliability (among them cities growing around the places that record the tempatures), and different ways of measureing the tempature's (satalite, ground stations ect.), often disagree. You may be able to point to a few spectacular occurances, but since the intrayear, year to year, decade to decade, and century to century fluctuations are much bigger then the supposed warming trend it is hard to logically conclude that they were caused by the warming trend even if you assume that there is such a trend (and I do not believe this is a safe assumption). I agree with Joe that if the earth was so fragile, it would have all ready "broke". The earth's climate changes dramaticly over time and has always done so. It is even possible that we would be in the begining of a cooling trend that will lead to an ice age, and that we should increase CO2 emmisions to stop this from happening. (I'm not recomending this BTW). Far to little is understood about long term climate change to spend trillions on trying to effect the change. Tim