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To: Frederick Smart who wrote (85978)	8/21/2000 9:57:41 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Telling a child NOT to take risks because of something YOU or someone else judges is like telling a child not to live. So if I tell my 4 year old daughter that she can't go swimming without a supervising adult, that is like telling her not to live? Parenting is a blessing. It is also a responsibility, and sometimes a responsible parent has to say NO. The problem is that people misunderstand risk. They think it's all reckless. Exactly what I said. Some risks are reckless and unacceptable. Some are not. Children are often not able to tell the difference. That is why parents take responsibility for them. Even among adults, it is very common for one person to assess risk for others. I sometimes guide whitewater kayaking trips. If I think a person's skills are not up to the level that a particular piece of water requires, that person portages. Sometimes the whole group portages. I make the decision. There are two good reasons for this: first, I have the experience needed to assess the risk, and second, if somebody gets in trouble, I'm the one that has to go in there and get them out. It has nothing to do with labeling, restricting, limiting. It's just common sense.

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (85978)	8/21/2000 10:34:10 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Fred the mystic said: First, I don't think parenting is "a job." I consider it a blessing. You haven't lived until you been blessed with a 3 year-old that decided sht was a lot like playdough and was fun to mold into shapes. While in their bed. Or have had a cocktail of explosive diarrhea go off on you as you change a diaper. Or, been covered by projectile vomit. From 5 feet. Or sat through the night with a child so weak with flu that you feared they might die. Or, had that child tell you I hate you!* when you tell them that they can eat 3rds on ice cream or can't have every toy that tickled their fancy. Get real. Maybe in the abstract. Otherwise, it's work. If it's not, you're not doing your "job". Someone else is. And believe me, I see it all over my neighborhood. Kids that never get told NO! Only GO! And they're little sh*ts when they act the way they do. I don't want my kid to play with them.

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (85978)	8/21/2000 11:25:04 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

So drop acid kiddies, tune in, turn on, and drop out with Brother Smart. Try hard drugs, screwing without protection, look at the sun, hitchhike, drive drunk, talk to strangers, let them give you rides in their cars, go see their puppies, take the candy too- these are ALL things I do NOT want my children to do even once. What EXACTLY are you advocating? >Telling a child NOT to take risks because of something YOU or someone else judges is like telling a child not to live. For taking risks is what real living and being is all about.< You are nuts. I hope your kids survive their adolescence.