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To: Phil(bullrider) who wrote (917)	8/22/2000 4:19:43 AM
From: Dale Baker	Respond to of 1766

No one short of mass murderers and war criminals deserves a fate like that. Given the THOUSANDS of people on SI that have surely lost loved ones to cancer, what Pluvia did is way beneath contempt. This exchange will stick in a few people's memory when it is them or their family in the hospital. I stand by what I said.

To: Phil(bullrider) who wrote (917)	8/22/2000 11:35:20 AM
From: shortbeach	Respond to of 1766

I, too, was distressed by Pluvia's post; twice, I have been the caretaker for relatives dying of cancer, which I wish upon no one. Also: please consider that the sick person is far from the only person who suffers or gets wiped out financially. While my mother was dying of nodular malignant melanoma, I was unable to work for two years in order to care for her; meanwhile, my then-husband was emptying my bank account, running up thousands in debt in both our names, changing the lock on my Gramercy Park apartment, where he remains with his girlfriend and their three month old son. Happens all the time when somebody in the family gets sick. Some folks haven't the stomach for it and bolt. Best moral and financial decision I ever made: gave them the apartment, am paying off the debts (guy doesn't have spit), called to wish them a Merry Christmas. Gave me back space they were taking up in my head and energy they were sucking from me. If you get the chance to kill somebody in order to save another, go for it, but to wish ill on anyone is fruitless. You have a choice whether you want to live at the cause or the effect of the people around you. Pluvia's venomous hatred towards this person whose influence apparently cost him too much already indicates his continued willingness to turn more power over to him. By no means is this a put-down -- just couldn't sit back and say nothing now that I know better, having wasted too much of my own life on bad feelings.

To: Phil(bullrider) who wrote (917)	8/22/2000 8:07:54 PM
From: Smartypts	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1766

Westerfraud: I hope he gets brain cancer! The kind that seeps into every brain cell in his head and then continues to spread throughout his whole body and then into his legs. Then when it gets to his legs I hope that he's still living and they have to cut 1 leg off while he's alive and he runs out of money for Chemo!!! Then when he has his leg chopped off I hope the other one gets gangreen and spreads throughout his back and into his arms and then his arms have to be chopped off and he can't move at all. Just lays there and stares at the ceiling all day and his girlfriend takes all his money and leaves him for someone else!!! That's what I hope.