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To: Eric K. who wrote (122736)8/22/2000 2:57:51 AM
From: chic_hearne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571066
 
Re: How exactly does a successful person justify voting for Al Gore?

Eric,

I'll give it a shot, even though I'm not sure at this moment who I'd vote for. GW is the obvious choice for the short term, but this doesn't mean I'd vote for him.

In my opinion, whoever gets elected is likely to get "Hoovered". (check your history for what he inherited)

I think the market is due for some serious bad times. It could come tommorrow or two years from now. I'm not sure of the exact timing, but I'm convinced it will be in the next 4 years, regardless of who gets the presidency. In my opinion, whichever party wins this presidency will lose it in 2004 because the market will have tanked. So goes the economy, so goes the presidency.

For that reason alone, I would rather have Gore take the fall now. This will pave the way for a Republican candidate in 2004.

In a perfect world, Jesse "the body" Ventura will run for president in 2004. Hopefully, it will be a respectable ticket. If so, I can't see how they would lose as the reform party is the best parts of both the Democrats and the Republicans. When you listen to people complain about both of the two major parties, the faults all seem to point to some kind of middle ground, which is the Reform party. I honestly think if the Body would be running right now with Colin Powell, he would win. If you've never heard him speak in person, this may be hard to understand. He's not some joke of an ex-pro wrestler, he actually knows what's going on.

chic



To: Eric K. who wrote (122736)8/22/2000 3:44:07 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571066
 
How exactly does a successful person justify voting for Al Gore?-- especially in regards to "We are for the people against the powerful?" This is my first time voting in a presidential election, but I am totally at a loss as to the thought process behind the Democrat party's economic success thesis.

Eric,

You have said a lot. Some of it seems to be a misinterpretation of what the Democrats stand for....btw I am not affilitated with either party. I think this country has issues surrounding corporate bigness and typically has been ambivalent when it comes to the wealthy...we envy/hate and venerate them at the same time.

I don't think the Democrats believe that corporations are inherently evil......after all they have presided over the longest economic expansion in this country's history....and this expansion definitely favored the capitalists. {BTW on CNBC I heard today, not for the first time, that contrary to popular belief, the economy has prospered more under the Democrats' tenure than the Republicans}. But I do believe that corporations have committed evil acts in the past and some continue to do so now; mainly by doing things that are in their best interest but not that of the population at large. A case in point is how the tobacco companies tried to cover up the dangers of cigerette smoking and make into something good for you....I think this went on in the fifties.

But rather than trying to explain the Democratic party when I am hardly an authority, let me say why I plan to vote for Gore. I believe he is a populist in that he believes wealth and power should be more evenly distributed. I strongly believe in that....one of the reasons for the longevity of the current economic expansion is that this is the most people employed since the 60's. That means more people have money to buy things.

I think his stance on schools and the environment are right on....it worries me that we have allowed our school systems to deteriorate so badly and that so many of my friends are sending or planning to send their children to private schools.

But most importantly I like the way he thinks....that its not all typical political rhetoric. That he seems sometimes to come from his gut and not his brain. His choice of a Jew to be his running mate blew me right out of the water and apparently everyone else. He picked none of the 4 people everyone thought he would. And I believe he made his choice for the right reasons even though I sense he hurt his chances for winning....I believe we live in a country that is still quietly anti-semitic.

I could go on but I won't except to say that this will be the first time in, I think, four presidential elections that I will vote for a candidate from either the Democrats or Republicans. Maybe I don't know what I am doing. <g>

ted