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To: TigerPaw who wrote (31286)	8/22/2000 3:08:23 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

There is absolutely no reason to nationalize health care. If the government wants to provide free clinics, as it does in some instances, as for immunization, that is fine. Additionally, it makes sense to provide tax sheltered accounts with a roll- over for ordinary medical expenses, and/or a subsidized system of credit for ordinary needs, keeping interest rates down by writing off defaults. (Why medical services should be prepaid beats me). Plus, encouraging the development of cheap catastrophic care policies, with very high deductibles, so that hospitalization is insured for less affluent Americans, makes sense. In other words, there are all sorts of ways to help the poor or the borderline wage earner without upsetting the whole system........

To: TigerPaw who wrote (31286)	8/22/2000 4:34:08 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

I can see you've lost the ability to rationally discuss this issue. One of the main reasons no alternatives were discussed was because of the lack of leadership Clinton/Gore provided and their inability to effectively utilize conflict resolutions methods in order to resolve the differences. They demagoged the issue and condemned anyone who disagreed with them. Additionally, they repeatedly refused to put Tort reform on the table. Clinton/Gore's allegiance was to the trial lawyers, in the same way their allegiance in education is to the teachers Union instead of parents and children. Challenging their special interest lobby groups who pay them off with millions of dollars every year, is not something Clinton/Gore will ever do. They're also too partisan in their demagogic language to dialogue effectively with people they disagree with. George W is a different kind of leader. He's demonstrated an unusual ability to place partisan politics aside and work with Democrats as well as Republicans to find common sense solutions which are results oriented. Dick Cheney is the same type of person who (until very recently) was spoken of highly by Democrats as well as Republicans. Let's face it, even given a best case scenario in regard to the election. Gore will have to work with Republicans to enact any meaningful legislation. And he's demonstrated an unusual ability to be partisan, when being partisan wasn't even necessary. He's not respected by Republicans, because he doesn't respect them. The latest nasty volley from Gore's team toward Dick Cheney's selection is typical of the Gore leadership style. As I've said before, he's too partisan for the electorate today. They want a leader willing to put politics aside in order to get meaningful things done. If you and your and fellow Democrats are truly concerned with Health Care and Education. You should be looking at results instead of platitudes. And the results of Clinton/Gore's last 8 years in these areas have been extremely poor (Any way you measure them). Now, you can elect to blame the Republicans, the moon or the stars. But the fact is the results speak for themselves. Real leaders find ways to work with those they disagree with in order to find common visions they share. The "politics of personal destruction" which have been a hallmark of the Clinton/Gore era will simply not allow that to happen. Gore is as partisan as they get. And I don't see any inclination he's going to change any time soon. So the choice is yours, four more years of wasted opportunity, or a new leader willing to reach across the aisle to find solutions to the things you care about. Michael