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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (6185)8/22/2000 7:30:00 PM
From: dougSF30Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
Pravin, the CNet "170" article is from back in June. Kanellos article from today is the "217"

You might want to apologize to Ian...CNet appears to have done nothing wrong... in early June they were guided by analysts to believe it was 170 (which even Kumar thought was too big). Today's IDF sources put the size at a whopping 217. Kanellos dutifully reported it.

Doug

p.s. Note the "Intel will not confirm the size" line from Kanellos' updated article. LOL! You can bet they would confirm it was smaller than 217 if they could!

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Intel chip will be bigger, more expensive to make
By Ian Fried
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
June 2, 2000, 11:45 a.m. PT
Intel's upcoming Willamette processor eventually will reach speeds beyond 2 GHz, but the size of the chip is raising questions about how much it will cost to make.

Willamette, Intel's next-generation desktop processor expected to emerge later this year, will debut at 170 square millimeters, according to estimates from analysts. At that size, it will be 60 percent larger than today's Pentium III. While the larger size will allow Intel to pack more transistors onto the chip and add more features, it also means fewer chips can be produced out of a single wafer, which raises Intel's costs.

...

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Intel super-sizes Pentium 4 chip
By Michael Kanellos
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
August 22, 2000, 12:20 p.m. PT
SAN JOSE, Calif.--Intel's upcoming Pentium 4 will be more than twice as big as the Pentium III and approximately 28 percent bigger than anticipated, an increase that will boost Intel's manufacturing cost and limit the number of chips produced.

The Pentium 4 will measure 217 square millimeters, according to several sources at the Intel Developer Forum, which began today in San Jose, Calif. The current Pentium III and Celeron chips, by contrast, take up about 100 square millimeters.

Analysts earlier predicted the chip would measure 170 square millimeters. Intel representatives would not confirm the size of the new chip.



To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (6185)8/22/2000 7:39:58 PM
From: EricRRRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Foster "server" delayed agian!! Does NOT use DDR!?

The register strikes again. Can this be true? Basically Intel has no DDR server until Q3 2001. Unbelievable. Foster is now only workstation. How will they stop Mustang?

BUY! BUY! BUY!

theregister.co.uk


Intel confirms Xeon shortages
By: Mike Magee
Posted: 22/08/2000 at 22:46 GMT

The VP and general manager of Intel's enterprise platform group
today confirmed tightness in supply of Xeon 700MHz
microprocessors.

Earlier this week, we reported that Compaq kit was in short supply
because of the tightness.

And Fister also disclosed others details of Intel's future roadmap
plans, confirming stories we wrote earlier this year.

Fister said of the 700MHz Xeon shortage, "capacity is tight" but
added that when such shortages occurred, chips were given to firms,
such as Compaq and Dell, depending on their forward forecasts.

He said that the Xeon family will continue with Gallatin, a shrunk .13
micron version, while its 82870 chipset will support McKinley, a
64-bit processor, and Gallatin, as well as other "future" processors.
Further, the 82870 will also support synchronous memory, double
data rate memory, and Rambus, simultaneously, he said.

While Intel said at its spring developer forum that Foster, the
Pentium 4's grown up server brother, would support DDR, he said
that the 860 chipset for the microprocessor, will now support
Rambus memory, again as revealed here.

But there's one codename we hadn't come across before, and that
is Plumas. This vague chipset is for dual processing servers,
although of which flavour, Fister did not say.

Foster, meanwhile, seems to have developed that persistent Intel
infection called "lateness".

Roadmaps leaked to The Reg originally suggested Foster
processors would appear in Q1. This will happen for workstation
flavours of the microprocessor, but multiprocessing (MP) four way
and eight way Fosters won't now happen until quarter three of next
year and will be a "pilot release". Dual processor parts, based on
the ServerWorks chipset, won't be introduced until Q2 of next year. ®