To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (108272 ) 8/25/2000 9:11:09 AM From: pgerassi Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894 Dear Tench: A Launch manager is simply a fancy name for a PR man. He does not use the correct language. Thus, he is not an expert except in down playing the P4's weaknesses. Until the CPU is tested by outsiders, you have to take what he says with a bunch of salt. He is no IA-32 architect. You are assuming that he is. Whenever someone who has seen P4 in their own hands (there is now two who published) has said that there is a significant penalty. Even Intel refuses to deliver a clock for clock comparison. The only comparisons they made was 1400 P4 against 800 P3 (no other configuration information was published) and 1400 P4 i850 vs 1000 P3 i820 RDRAM (no other configuration was published). In both cases, the 1400 P4 was not tested against a known quantity. In the second test, against a 1.13G P3 i840 would have been a closer apples to apples test. In the first, which version of 800 P3 was used? The 100 or 133 MHz FSB with 810, 815E, or 820 using RDRAM, PC100, or PC133, and the same amount of memory and disk? If it was 100 FSB using 810 with PC100, it would be a joke. Perhaps with a 133 FSB, 815e with PC133 CAS2, the first comparison would show neither system dropping frames. If P4 could run with P3 clock for clock, Intel would have shown far more. The fact that they did not divulge the configurations of the very much different clocks, shows that they have something to hide. Yes Tench, actions do speak louder than words. We have seen very little action. The amount we have seen or heard about, foretell big problems. These are the same people that said RDRAM is better and we know how that turned out. Yes, lets wait for the proof. It should be coming soon unless, Intel delays it yet again. Pete