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To: Paul Engel who wrote (108282)	8/25/2000 6:07:37 AM
From: kapkan4u	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

<WHat a frigging disaster !! The one readable benchmark showed a 3DMARK 2000 benchmark for an 800 MHz ThumperTurd of 4196 for PC133 SDRAM and a WHOPPING IMPROVEMENMT TO 4222 for 266 MHz DDR SDRAM !!!> engel, you are so predictable. How come that the only "readable" benchmark also happens to show the smallest improvement? I will help you to read the rest: StreamD: Average improvement 65% Winstone 2000 content creation: 7.8% 3DMark 2000: SDRAM 133: 5738, DDR 200 6123 Quake III: 13% Also note another little lie in your message. The comparison is not with DDR 266, but rather with DDR 200 (and 200MHz FSB). Just imagine Athlon with 266MHz FSB/DDR at 1.5GHz with 1MB on die L2. As an AMD shareholder, I bet you are drooling uncontrollably. Now go ahead and type your very predictable response. Kap

To: Paul Engel who wrote (108282)	8/25/2000 10:00:17 AM
From: pgerassi	Respond to of 186894

Paul: You need eyeglasses. That bench was done with PC1600 memory. Tbird only uses a 200 FSB. Second, those benchmarks are using those that are not affected by memory being run mostly from L1 and L2 plus graphics drivers that are not optimized for the chipset. Any improvement with the same CPU, graphics card, and drivers is unusual. RDRAM against 815E shows that higher bandwidth does not translate to higher speed (the reverse actually). The Quake benchmark shows a much higher improvement 12.5%. That is more than the difference between a 800 MHz and a 1000 MHz P3 on 815e, or 800 Tbird and a 1000 Tbird on KT133. A Tbird at 950 MHz on PC1600 would outrun a 1133 MHz P3 on PC133. The 65% improvement in StreamD scores using PC1600 over PC133 far exceeds the improvement of PC800 RDRAM over PC133. This means that Tbird on PC1600 outruns P3 on i840 with PC800 at same clock. All in all, very bad news for Intel. Pete