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Strategies & Market Trends : CNC: Irwin Jacobs And The Temple Of Doom -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: donjuan_demarco who wrote (62)8/27/2000 11:12:08 AM
From: Kevin Podsiadlik  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 111
 
Kevin Walsh is NOT eligible for the contest

Can I assume he posts as "nkmw" on Yahoo?



To: donjuan_demarco who wrote (62)8/27/2000 11:02:55 PM
From: Kevin Podsiadlik  Respond to of 111
 
All right, here's my first nomination...

messages.yahoo.com

CNC buy recommendation
by: teknalysis 8/27/00 8:10 pm
Msg: 68598 of 68621
 
I have recommended CNC on my RagingBull.com Personal Board--Tek's World, a board for position traders. A partial text follows:
To all Tek’s World members;
On 6/27 I bought CNC buy at $6 1/8. It eventually ran to an intraday high of $11 3/4 on 7/5. The recommendation was based on Irwin Jacobs and associates buying over $100 million worth of CNC common stock--Jacobs said CNC represents the greatest profit opportunity he has seen in his 58 years and the pending announcement of former GE Capital exec Gary Wendt as the new CNC CEO. Mr. Wendt has become the new CEO and has brought at least 6 GE Capital veterans with him as his A-Team.
I am now recommending CNC, one of the 10 largest insurance companies again. It has based out in the low to mid $7’s, and closed at 7 3/8 on Friday. The technical indicators have been bullishly reset. Of special interest are the Bollinger Bands, which are showing the tightest contraction since July 1996.
The issue creating the new buying opportunity in CNC is the various nearing deadlines for various amounts of debt repayment.
CNC has assured shareholders that non-strategic assets will be sold to meet some of the debt repayment. Until such assets are sold, CNC has assured shareholders that the looming debt payment deadlines will be extended and/or the debt refinanced.
Anti-CNC forces, such as Barron’s, CNBC, and various newspapers in MN and IN, etc have been painting a dismal picture for the above-mentioned restructuring. Short sellers have been working overtime on message boards to further frighten longs. Debt reporting agencies such as Moody’s, S&P, etc have lowered the company’s debt ratings. Major brokerages have lowered their outlook on the stock.
This is called “Bash and Stash”. It is the opposite of “Pump and Dump”. In the Bash and Stash, the goal is for the Street to bash the target company and stash away the stock at low prices. When the “problem situation” of the target company is resolved, the stock goes up and the Street makes a killing.
Because of the large number of insurance and mutual fund policyholders, the general size of the company and its relative importance in its industry, it is very unlikely that the debt will not be restructured prior to asset sales. Also, the banks, brokerages and other creditors earn too many millions per year in interest, consulting fees and preferred dividends not too save the patient.
Here are the share data (in round number) numbers for CNC:
Issued 325,000,000 shares
Insiders 72,000,000 shares
Other large holders 145,000,000 shares
Float 108,000,000 shares
Short interest 66,000,000 shares
CNC has the 2ND HIGHEST short interest of any NYSE listed stock!
To battle the shorts, Irwin Jacobs has spent $500,000 on full-page ads in the WSJ and NY Times, as well as appearing on CNBC on 8/25/00.
The purpose of these ads is to educate the long shareholders about the damage the shorts are doing and to suggest a solution. The solution offered is to notify their brokers in writing not to let their shares be loaned out to shorts
Jacobs unprecedented campaign is helping start the short squeeze that will erupt when the debt restructure announcement is made.
Jacobs is in good company. Other major shareholders are Alex Brown, Barclays, Pimco, Harvard College, Equinox Capital, State Street Corp, Federated Investors, Thomas Lee Partners, National Fidelity Life, Pioneer II fund, Federated American, Hartford Capital, Safeco, Vanguard, Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, Aetna, Gabelli and Morningstar.
For more details on CNC, read the CNC board at Raging Bull. Start with post number 4798 and it’s various links. Also read all other posts by ta_56, as well as greeedyboy, and paulthebigfinn.
I recommend CNC as a strong buy.



To: donjuan_demarco who wrote (62)8/28/2000 5:22:44 PM
From: Kevin Podsiadlik  Respond to of 111
 
Our friend Tunica must be feeling neglected that he hasn't been nominated yet, so I'll ease his fears by submitting to the contest an example of his calm rationality that contrasts with all the panic the short sellers are experiencing right now...

messages.yahoo.com

DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL!!!!!
by: ta_56 (M/Tunica Albuginea)
8/28/00 3:45 pm
Msg: 68819 of 68846

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DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL!!!!!

DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL!!!!!

DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL!!!!!

DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL!!!!!

DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL!!!!!

DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL, DON'T SELL!!!!!



To: donjuan_demarco who wrote (62)8/29/2000 12:48:53 AM
From: Kevin Podsiadlik  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 111
 
Oooh, oooh, a new nominee and instant frontrunner, SCHMETTYMAN!

messages.yahoo.com

ALL YOU SHORTS ARE A BUNCH OF SELF SERVING EGOTISTICAL NON REALIZING PIECES OF LOW LIFE WHITE TRASH. GRANTED JOE DOESN'T HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER AND I WOULD NEVER WANT TO TAKE HIS PLACE I HOPE YOU ALL LOSE YOUR ASSES SHORTING THIS STOCK. I KNOW HOWEVER THAT AS SOON AS CNC TURNS AROUND MOST OF YOU WILL BE BECOME LONGS WHICH AS YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE MONEY ON THIS MANIPULATED STOCK, WILL STILL BE NO CONSOLATION WHEN YOUR RICH IGNORANT DUMBFUCK POSTER BOY COKE SNORTING MORONIC REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE G.W. BUSH (OR DUBYA FOR THE EXTREMELY MENTALLY CHALLLENGED) DOESN'T GET ELECTED IN NOVEMBER. GO HUG YOUR ROOT SHORTY BOYS BECAUSE MONEY DOESN'T MAKE UP FOR A SMALL PENIS.
SINCERELY, SCHMETTYMAN!!!!

messages.yahoo.com

SHORTHING THAT'S KIND OF LIKE ASKING IF YOU WILL CONTINUE TO POST IRRATIONAL BASHING CRAP ON THIS BOARD IF YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO BE GIVEN THE BAKER ACT!!!! YOUR MOTIVATION IS OBVIOUS. I HEARD YOU USE TO LICK DUBYA'S BOOT SOLES FOR MONEY, TRUE?

(The "Baker Act" apparently has something to do with mental health facilities in Florida. I wonder how he was so familiar with it?)



To: donjuan_demarco who wrote (62)9/11/2000 10:38:29 AM
From: Kevin Podsiadlik  Respond to of 111
 
New nominee: messages.yahoo.com

It's not an innocent gnats club anymore. And the market doesn't operate on the fundamentals of the company as far as CNC is concerned (or any other stock for that matter). For some strange reason this stock became a huge battlefield between the investors and the shorts. And these two categories are not equivalent even morally. There is indeed a shorts conspiracy to run the company down. You must know the figures. You must be aware that artificially lowering the value of the stock of an essentially healthy company in a temporary trouble may create a chain reaction and kill it. Do the message boards matter in this situation? You bet they do. TA is performing an important service for us. As far as the gnats are concerned, the changed and not so innocent situation makes their arrogant behavior and persistent stupid game with the famous Joe inappropriate and annoying