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To: pezz who wrote (84)	8/27/2000 9:21:32 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 10042

This is EXACTLY were there were fires less than a month ago! You ahve any idea how long it takes to rebuild this much lost top soil on the Rocky Mountains? But Hey didn't you say it was jsut nature taking it course? Mudslide snarls traffic on I-70 near Gypsum By Denver Post staff and wire reports Aug. 27, 2000 - Heavy rain triggered a mudslide along Interstate 70 near Gypsum in Eagle County on Saturday, backing up traffic for several miles and closing westbound lanes of the highway for much of the afternoon. The slide occurred about 2:40 p.m., covering an area about threetenths of a mile long with watery mud about 15 inches deep, said Claudia Lamb of the Colorado Department of Transportation. There were no injuries and little damage, Lamb said. Both westbound lanes of I-70 were closed until about 6:30 p.m.; eastbound lanes remained open. The lane closure backed up traffic 3 to 4 miles at Gypsum, Lamb said. Authorities diverted traffic onto U.S. 6 and then routed it back to I-70 at Dotsero, she said. denverpost.com

To: pezz who wrote (84)	8/27/2000 9:31:35 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 10042

It is not only the dry summer which has directly reduced the amount of bear food but also inderectly the fires which was made far worse by the acttions & misdirection of funds by the current administration: 3 bears enter home, are killed By David Olinger Denver Post Staff Writer Aug. 27, 2000 - Three bears were shot and killed after they broke into a Park County home early Saturday morning, twice awakening the homeowner and his sleeping son in their bedroom. The homeowner shot the mother and one of her cubs shortly after midnight, after he awoke to find two pairs of eyes staring at him and his 3-year-old son.(cont) denverpost.com

To: pezz who wrote (84)	8/27/2000 9:40:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Hey Pezz... How's 5.8 million scorched acres over the course of two months rate for "scale and speed" with regard to destruction of habitat. Yes some lands are lost through natural disasters but it's the scale and speed that counts. news.excite.com U.S. wildfires converge in "Perfect Storm" Updated 12:58 PM ET August 27, 2000 BOISE, Idaho (Reuters) - Uncontrolled blazes roaring across the U.S. West converged to form even larger fires Sunday, causing what one senior U.S. official called "a perfect storm" of tinderbox conditions, high winds, and forests thick with fuel. "It is tragic what's happened out there," Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman told Fox News Sunday as fire officials reported a total of more than 1.6 million acres ablaze in 13 western states. Nightmare weather conditions have combined to bring about a worst-case scenario for U.S. firefighters, much as converging hurricanes made for disaster in the recent book and movie "The Perfect Storm", Glickman said. "We have the hottest driest weather in perhaps 50 years, we have thousands of lightning strikes an hour, we have 300 new fires every day in the West, largely because of lightning strikes," he said. In Montana, one of the worst hit states, officials said two major fires burning near the Bitterroot National Forest had combined to form one monster 255,000 blaze. "That's a very large fire now that they have joined, and obviously the containment efforts between the two fires weren't successful," said Marine Corps Major Curtis Hill, a spokesman for the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise. "The fires have burned into one big, major area now. But the good side is that there are two teams working the same fire at this point," Hill said, adding that other, smaller blazes were also likely to join together. Other major fires were reported burning in Idaho, Washington, and South Dakota, while gusty winds and hot, dry weather remained in the forecast for much of the U.S. West through early this week. With some 25,000 people involved in the firefighting effort and a total of more than 5.8 million acres scorched to date, state and federal officials were taking a new look at the possible policy implications of this year's inferno. Glickman said that the traditional U.S. approach to forest fires may simply have run its course. "The convergence of that hot, dry weather...coupled with a policy of Congress and the administration for nearly 100 years of suppressing virtually every forest fire has created an environment where the fuels that are available for burning are greater than they might have been 500 to 600 years ago," he said, adding that President Clinton had asked him and Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt to develop a new firefighting strategy. Montana Gov. Marc Racicot, who has already closed a total of 30 of the state's 56 counties to anyone without a special use permit, said his state was now paying the price for years of neglect by state and federal officials. "The fact is everybody was warned of this...we have not attached the right priority to these issues," the governor told Fox News Sunday. "We're beyond $100 million in fire fighting expenses, and that's just suppression costs. We have no idea yet what's going to happen to the people of Montana in terms of economic losses." ^ REUTERS@"" ******* When is the last time that mankind destroyed wildlife habitat at such a rate? Now the question is whether we, as human beings, have any right to interfere with nature's fiery rampage of destruction. Should we just let it burn, or should we prevent nature from destroying itself? Or should we let loggers go in and selectively cut overgrown stands of trees, paying the gov't for the priviledge to boot? What's your stand on the issue?

To: pezz who wrote (84)	12/12/2000 8:06:24 AM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

ot Republican Liberty Caucus Champions Limited Gov't, Personal Freedom By Jim Burns CNS Senior Staff Writer December 12, 2000 (CNSNews.com) - The Republican Liberty Caucus, a longtime Libertarian wing of the GOP, elected a new national committee and selected new officers for the coming year during a weekend convention in Atlanta. Those appearing at the convention included Republican congressional Representatives Bob Barr (R-GA) and Ron Paul (R-TX). Chuck Muth of Nevada, a longtime GOP activist, was elected to serve as the caucus national chairman. He has headed the Nevada chapter of the Republican Liberty Caucus for the past four years. In a speech accepting the chairmanship, Muth called the Republican Liberty Caucus "a very unique organization under the GOP's big tent." "Unlike other Republican affiliate groups, we don't care what your race is. We don't care about your color, or national origin, or income, or age, or gender or sexual orientation. We only care if you champion limited government as authorized by the Constitution, personal freedom and individual responsibility." Muth said he will focus on two primary objectives during his two-year term. He wants to build RLC affiliates throughout the United States and promote the election of what Muth called "pro-liberty" Republicans at all levels of government. The RLC, Muth vows, will not become a "wishy-washy, middle-of-the-road, let's-make-a-deal" organization. "The 'Rodney King' Republicans of the Kumbaya wing of the GOP aren't likely to find a sympathetic ear at the RLC as long as I'm chairman," Muth said. "We're in a dead serious war of ideas with our opponents, and I'm in this to win....not split the difference. The future of our country and our children depends on our winning this contest of philosophies. RINO's (Republicans In Name Only) need not apply, " Muth said. The RLC also elected Murray Sabrin of New Jersey as Vice Chairman, Laura Kotelman of Illinois as Treasurer and Rob Booth of Texas as Secretary. Also on the RLC national committee will be the RLC's founder, Eric Dondero of Texas, Tom Walls of Florida and Rick Sincere of Virginia. Muth concluded that the United States Constitution is the original "Contact With America." (In 1994, the GOP won a congressional majority for the first time in over 40 years by running on a conservative platform billed as a Contract with America.) "It's time for us to concentrate on electing representatives who will actually live up to their oath to honor, abide by and defend this greatest document of all time. Democrats and others who would shred that compact with our Founding Fathers need to be wiped off the electoral map," Muth said. cnsnews.com\Politics\archive\200012\POL20001212b.html