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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (71746)8/27/2000 7:35:56 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack  Respond to of 95453
 
The Time for Hard Assets - commodities & raw materials

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05:15 PM 08|18|2000 Jim Rogers
With increasing worldwide demand for raw materials chasing reduced supply, the long run of the bears may be nearing an end. As the supply glut diminishes, a commodities investment may deliver the natural portfolio additive investors are seeking.

Editor's note: History shows that raw materials prices do not correlate with the price movements of U.S. equities. With equities teetering of late and bearish rumblings echoing through the market, now might be a good time to add natural ballast to the portfolio. So says Jim Rogers, a cultivated voice in the raw materials field. Only two years ago, when crude oil was at $12 a barrel and headed lower, and many other commodities were similarly depressed, Rogers seized the opportunity to launch his Rogers Raw Materials Index Fund (RRMF), which is based in turn on the eponymous Rogers International Commodities Index (RICI). Since opening for business on Aug. 1, 1998, the fund has advanced 48%.



Oil, of course, has skyrocketed, but it holds no monopoly for bullish performance by a raw material. Platinum, for example, was recently quoted at $612 an ounce in the London spot market, its highest price since 1987. The price improvement is a product of dwindling supply from Russia coupled with increased demand from car manufacturers, which use the precious metal in catalytic converters. The RICI tracks 35 commodities in all, and its founder brings proven scoping skills to this global challenge.

No armchair analyst, Rogers has been distilling raw data from the frontlines since January 1999, when he began a 73-country (to date) world tour that will conclude in 2001. Thus far, his research suggests that the prices of a number of raw materials will move higher as rising demand overtakes inelastic supply.

In a recent e-mail to Grant's Investor "postmarked" from Africa, the peripatetic Rogers advanced the case for investing in commodities:

"For the past two-and-a-half decades, raw materials investments were absolute losers -- a mirror image to the dazzling performance of tech stocks. The protracted bear market was fueled by tepid worldwide demand coupled with overabundant supplies of oil, metals, grains and the like. Desperate to raise cash, the Russians liquidated stockpiles of raw materials hoarded during the Cold War. Then, during its own economic crisis two years ago, Asia greatly curtailed its purchases of various commodities, further contributing to the supply glut.

"But a shift has occurred. Raw material supplies are diminishing just as global demand is heating up, dragging stocks on hand into record-low territory. The ratio of foodstuff inventories measured against average annual consumption has dropped to the low teens (compared to a record high of about 35% in the 1980s) and may remain there for years, even if the world economy slows.



"When global demand for raw materials continues to increase during a period of static and declining supply, the resulting price movements can be dramatic, as the doubling in the price of natural gas over the past year attests. And for several years running, underinvestment has characterized the global natural-resource industry. Virtually no one has opened a lead mine or developed a sugar plantation during this period. Quite the opposite: Productive equipment has deteriorated or been cannibalized or scrapped, while previously operating capacity has been closed. For example, more than a few Aussie mining companies, including Walhalla and Western Minerals, have abandoned mining altogether to establish an Internet presence, according to a report that first appeared last year in The Prospector, an Australian mining publication.

"Volatility in the sugar industry provides another example. Weather-related problems have cut production in Brazil, the world's largest sugar exporter, and output has decreased in Australia and the European Union as well. Across the board, fewer refiners are available to satisfy increased demand, exacerbating the supply/demand imbalance. Prices are reflecting the disparity, with London-traded white sugar recently recording its highest price in more than two-and-a-half years.

"Despite all the signs pointing to a commodities bull market, skeptics abound. The techno-bear case asserts that technology-induced efficiencies will permanently increase the supply of raw materials while tempering demand. One scenario envisions fuel prices declining as telecommuting obviates the need to travel to work in a fossil-fuel-consuming vehicle. Even without the current electricity crisis in California, the argument lacks historical validity. Take the hydrocarbon industry, for example. In the mid-1960s, drilling for oil offshore or below 5,000 feet on land was almost impossible. Then, an explosion of technological breakthroughs led to the development of 25,000-foot wells and to offshore drilling worldwide. The Hughes diamond bit drill ushered in previously unimagined drilling efficiency. Yet oil prices gushed 1,500% in 15 years.

"Now, petroleum geologists fire seismic charges into the ground to pinpoint the location of oil. The three-dimensional data that is transmitted back to analysts has enabled oil companies to lower their costs of production. But cheaper production costs do not affect global demand, which continues to increase inexorably -- whether from SUV-loving Americans or from Russians who now covet the very commodities they once unloaded to raise cash. The fact is, no previous advancements in transportation or communication have been able to suppress periodic, multiyear commodity bull markets. [Editor's note: We do not endeavor to validate or refute Rogers's assertion, preferring to let our paid-up subscribers weigh in on the matter.]

"Lastly, a perennial favorite of the naysayers is the idea that inevitable economic slowdown will moderate raw materials demand and, therefore, prices. But amidst the economic stagnation of the 1970s, raw material prices rose tremendously. Though hard times quashed demand for commodities like oil and gold, their diminished supply kept prices elevated. But the hard times have come and gone. Now waning global inventories are juxtaposed against increased worldwide demand and diminished supply of natural resources, making conditions ripe for the birth of a new multiyear bull market. Investors may want to keep their eyes on the horizon while funneling at least some assets into raw materials."
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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (71746)8/27/2000 7:58:28 AM
From: Roebear  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Slider,

Bravo, Bravo

You have written "Fit for Framing" posts this morning. In my view the greatest threat to the market, consumer debt levels, you have outlined well.

Someday it will bring this Prodigal market, which is so gleefully spending its Inheritance, to the front of the Tent Meeting to confess its Wicked WWicked Ways, ggg!

On a drive through the area this weekend, house looking, not hunting, ggg, noted quite a few of the now prevalent half million dollar houses up for sale. I have to wonder why their owners are selling, if they had .com fortunes now dissipated or if they were simply transferred. Noted one fine mansion, a half mile of private drive up into the mountain (an awful long driveway in this area) that showed signs of abandonment, even disrepair.

I smell opportunity and its wearing a Bear Suit.

Best Regards,

Roebear



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (71746)8/27/2000 1:45:39 PM
From: BigBull  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
Slider - The perfect storm?

Yes it's coming, and so is the Mother of all Bear markets. The key question is when?

Some articles to ponder:

yardeni.com

What the author of the article you posted neglected to point out was the plunge in govt. borrowing. And while the, increase in consumer credit, the sub prime lending IS a concern along with the savings rate, what is somewhat heartening is that the biggest and most non productive users of capital - the US Govt. - is disappearing almost over night. Now about productivity and inflation.

Recent productivity gains in the US economy ARE NOT TRIVIAL. IMO those who overly discount them are making a huge mistake. I cannot say that more unequivocally. Take a look:

yardeni.com

It is clear from the above story that a tremendous amount of the borrowing from corporate entities is to upgrade and update current existing capital plant to make them ever more efficient.

Will the rest of the boom until 06 - 10 or so be inflationary? Most definitely. But I see a slower rise than perhaps you do. I still agree with Wolanchuk on this one, from here on out inflation will continue to rear it's ugly head, but the boom is not dead by a long shot.

Here's an interesting economic cycle/stock cycle view.

I think it shows well that the markets have discounted "recession" and that "early cycle" stocks are leading the way for a resumption of the bull market. Note the lag between the economic cycle and stock cycle. The economic "news" will probably show more weakness going forward as was evindenced by the durable goods orders. Pricing pressure will also moderate a bit - sans oil of course. Don't get me wrong - oil is important - but is not everything. This will lull the market to sleep for a few months, but then the flip side of a soft landing is...

stockcharts.com

I think the marketplace is our best vehicle for timing bull and bear cycles, not gurus. So far the market place is signalling a new leg up. The across the board breakout runs in all interest rate sensitive stocks signal clearly where we are. BTW I expect them to aexperience a little dip soon, as they are very extended. Could a derivatives bomb hit the market - oh surely - and we must all keep on the look out for one. Thanks for reminding me.

In closing, please know that I am no Pollyana and will keep a sharp eye out for the things mentioned in that article, especially the risk imposed by derivatives. Also, I am keeping a close eye on developments in Korea. They seem to be running into some big bumps resolving the Chaebol debt problems.