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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (32535)	8/27/2000 11:17:44 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769667

Republicans expect more of their leadership. They do not expect them to be saints. If someone has transgressed in the past, as did Hyde, it is not a matter for discipline. If someone gets divorced, well, it is not a matter for public comment, since we are not privy to the circumstances. But if someone is involved in ongoing or contemporary scandal, as it happened Livingston was, he was expected to resign. The fact that he was considered to have done it with class, and that there was some sympathy for his fall, does not change the fact that he was expected to resign. If the Democrats had half as much integrity, there would have been calls from their side for Clinton's resignation from more than one or two Representatives........

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (32535)	8/27/2000 11:59:06 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

What do you propose, every person who speaks highly of family values never divorce or something? It's not a crime to get divorced. It's a crime to lie under oath and commit perjury. And people are serving time across the nation for that very act.

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (32535)	8/27/2000 1:59:27 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769667

LOL!!! The Republican argument, quoted more than once on this board, that "This isn't about sex; it's about obstruction of justice bla bla bla" is a cop-out. It's a convenient way to skirt the issue (no pun intended) of rampant immoral behavior by members of the GOP. Scary part is I think you actually believe this. We expect politicians may lie, exaggerate, make promises they can't keep and to have the same personal failings as many of their fellow men and women. We don't expect them to perjure, obstruct justice, etc. There is a difference. JLA

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (32535)	8/27/2000 3:20:38 PM
From: Frank Griffin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

You can say Livingston had an affair and Clinton had an affair or affairs. OK. Now you can say Clinton lied under oath, obstructed justice, perjured himself, suborned perjury. Can you say that about Livingston. Of course not. Clinton isn't in the same class as Livingston. Livingston could have, like Clinton, said, "I am not going to resign. I was duly elected." He chose to do the honorable thing. Clinton did not put the country before his selfish interests. Also, question, why don't you Clinton and Gore lovers start a Clinton or Gore thread so you can celebrate your love together and allow we who believe Bush is the better choice discuss our values without your interference?