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To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (14833)8/30/2000 12:02:13 PM
From: Lucretius  Respond to of 436258
 
ho ho ho



To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (14833)8/30/2000 1:09:53 PM
From: re3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
non-issues. jpm hit another 52 week high.



To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (14833)8/30/2000 1:11:56 PM
From: chic_hearne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
heinz,

Kind of a dumb question.

What all does "total derivative" include?

thanks,

chic



To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (14833)8/30/2000 1:20:48 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Heinz, as I've mentioned before:

Graph number one is illuminating in showing the rise in notional derivatives.
1990 = $6 trillion
2000 = $37 trillion

Notional value WAY over states the risk, if you're long a trillion tbills what's the risk? Counterparty. Note the 'bilateral netting' agreements as well, no messy lawsuits over one contract, total gets netted so banks can more easily estimate each counterparty risk.

Still, as you have said.. the system has never been tested. Any 'freeze of assets' by a government [which in a major default where any authority steps in is certainly possible] could cause a chain reaction of derivative contract technical default, and scare the crap out of people.

DAK