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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (109069)	8/31/2000 8:00:24 AM
From: GVTucker	Respond to of 186894

Tenchusatu, RE: Rob, it amazes me to see how far Alpha has slipped. Weren't you saying last year that 21264 will hit 1 GHz this year? Seems like that won't happen until early next. Even at 733 MHz, I expect Itanium to easily tower above the Alpha. You know, I have often wondered about what would have happened if an alternative settlement with DEC had occurred. Rather than getting StrongARM and the Alpha manufacturing, what would have happened if Intel had instead taken all of DEC's semiconductor operations? Alpha was always a solid technology that was marketed horridly. Intel could have taken this chip mainstream pretty quickly. And we would be well on the way to speeds that are now just promises with Itanium. In the meantime, CPQ probably still would have purchased DEC, given the semiconductor business was the least attractive thing for CPQ to own. It would have been a win for everybody involved. Oh, wait, it wouldn't be a win for McNealy. And he surely would have wailed to the FTC to block the deal, and they probably would have listened. Never mind.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (109069)	8/31/2000 10:14:06 AM
From: Rob Young	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Tench, "Rob, it amazes me to see how far Alpha has slipped. Weren't you saying last year that 21264 will hit 1 GHz this year? Seems like that won't happen until early next. Even at 733 MHz, I expect Itanium to easily tower above the Alpha." Go back and read what I quoted from Paul. The only thing Itanium will "tower over" anyone at is RC5. "The Dryhstone of the 21st Century." In your own words you are "very worried" about Foster and Willamettes impact on Itanium. I would be too. You can't have it both ways. Itanium isn't going to outperform Alpha at any benchmark of significance. A product has to ship. The fact that Intel is downplaying SPEC doesn't bode well for Itanium. Tell us your read on that? How do you "push" or suggest that Itanium is also a workstation player if THE single most important workstation benchmark is ignored? Why is it ignored? Obviously because the compilers are far from being world-class and won't be 1Q 20001. Regarding Alpha and speeds... yes.. very careful about getting excited about "deliverables" there. Too long a timeframe. However, we know sooner or later we see speedy EV68. After all, Compaq has landed the largest SuperComputer contract of the year with EV68 and 2 others that are very large (Pittsburgh NSF among them). Quite obvious price and performance is very good there. Power4? 21364 in the Wildfire follow-on aka Marvel. No Problemo!