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To: Joe NYC who wrote (7262)9/1/2000 2:49:40 AM
From: PetzRespond to of 275872
 
Too bad SemiconEng is gone. Didn't know that. /Petz



To: Joe NYC who wrote (7262)9/1/2000 3:23:02 AM
From: THE WATSONYOUTHRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
I thought I remembered paUL saying that Intel now also uses local interconnect, but I could be wrong. Any Intelopia want to comment?

I think Elmer mentioned the possibility initially. It kind of surprised me at first. Then Semicong started off on local interconnect but was describing an etchback type process rather than a Damascene process which is in use by AMD/Moto/IBM/others. Somehow I doubt they would bring it in on .13um with no manufacturing experience. It is indeed a difficult process (most difficult on .13) But, once you offer it, the designers refuse to design without it since it makes their job considerably easier. It's the type of process whereby once you decide to go that route, you simply MAKE it work. With experience, it is really not that bad. I think AMD's early on history with it was painful. Probably the K6 design (if from Next Gen) had an aggressive IBM approved SRAM cell design without any redundancy. I could envision problems under these circumstances given a low level of experience. So, I don't know if Intel is using it. They have consistently balked at using it until now. If they are using it at .13um, it indicates how worried they are. Remember the claim that they would never sacrifice yields by using exotic processing. So, I would guess they are not using it. We'll find out soon enough.

yet more speculation

THE WATSONYOUTH