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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (109196)9/1/2000 2:42:35 PM
From: Rob Young  Respond to of 186894
 
Tench,

" P.S. - I forgot to ask earlier. Does the 21364 have an L3 cache? My understanding was that it doesn't have one, nor
does it need one because the RDRAM is so close to the processor. "

Good question.. I wonder the same. I believe your analysis
is correct but I don't know for sure. However, I have
seen a strong hint in such a direction. Besides as
noted earlier the on-chip L2s act as one big happy L2
so to speak. If initially, Marvel scales to 64 processors
you would have an effective 96 MByte of L2 at hand.. so
I say no need for L3. Yes, some 4 or 5 hops away but
math works out it is a smaller percentage than local
or "nearby" L2. Besides all asynchronous routing...

That's why I believe the positioning of 21364 pretty
much gives us the hint to "no L3 necessary". That is
"low-cost" server part pops up often enough.

BTW , a minor nit:

"Maybe that's why you're slinging mud at Itanium. If your product looks bad, try your darnest to make the
competition's product look even worse."

Not my product. I just enjoy Alpha and VMS. Best in
the industry. Speaking of secrets... both pretty much
well kept secrets in a sense. They do have their
break-out moments of late (Los Alamos, Pittsburgh, Celera,
etc. for Alpha/Tru64). Still waiting on VMS break out moment,
maybe soon!

Rob