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To: GREENLAW4-7 who wrote (72215)9/3/2000 11:48:19 AM
From: Aggie  Respond to of 95453
 
Good morning greenlaw4-7,

A correction is inevitable, but I do not think we'll dip below 115-118 on the OSX before building again.

I believe an important point is often overlooked in the discussion of crude oil prices and the OPEC nations.

OPEC has stated repeatedly their intention to hold crude oil prices in a $22-26 range. The referenced crude is the OPEC basket, which I believe is currently is trading at something less than the comonly quoted West Texas light sweet crude (now at $33).

I know that the Middle Eastern crude (which is often quoted for example, on the Schlumebrger site) is a composite Oman/Dubai light sour crude - it currently is around $27 for near-month futures price.

Enough about crude oil prices, I think you get the picture. Anybody out there know where we can reference the OPEC basket price quickly?

To my mind, the politicians, market makers, and now journalists are fanning the flames of another collective conciousness mood swing. Screaming about 300% increases in oil prices this year is neither accurate, fair, nor rational - and if a guy used the same kind of cheap tricks to sell cars, he'd be hauled into court by the county attorney.

We all know that $10 crude was an extreme and momentary aberration, brought about by the same shitheads who, at the time, were screaming about the world awash in a sea of oil. Remember the missing barrels? Nobody else in a position of responsibility seems to. And now the public spotlight of attention is swinging back to the oil producers, with blame waiting in the wings.

I believe at least part of this unfolding dynamic is a subtle strategy on the part of OPEC to determine (a) just what is the level of stored production and (b) just what is the true consumption of the western world, their biggest market. Not a case of a conspiracy or plot, you understand, more a case of gently applying guidance to a certain building momentum. One way to determine (a) and (b) is to hold production more or less steady in the face of a rising demand until people begin to holler. OPEC manifests enough of the world's consumption to be in a position of sufficient strength for just that. A new concensus is gradually formed as the topic moves upward in the ranks of daily importance, with contributions from govenments, think tanks, analysts, and journalists.

All in all, I think it's been as well managed as possible - no abrupt shocks to the system yet, rather a gradual increase in the volume and stridency of the shortfall warnings. Are we in serious trouble in the US? I don't think so, although it's going to take some very hard work to meet demands - certainly a different mentality must replace the current one, at the level of federal and state governments.

Just my two pennies worth.

Regards, to all,

Aggie



To: GREENLAW4-7 who wrote (72215)9/3/2000 11:50:18 AM
From: Aggie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Good morning greenlaw4-7,

A correction is inevitable, but I do not think we'll dip below 115-118 on the OSX before building again.

I believe an important point is often overlooked in the discussion of crude oil prices and the OPEC nations.

OPEC has stated repeatedly their intention to hold crude oil prices in a $22-26 range. The referenced crude is the OPEC basket, which I believe is currently is trading at something less than the commonly quoted West Texas light sweet crude (now at $33).

I know that the Middle Eastern crude (which is often quoted for example, on the Schlumberger site) is a composite Oman/Dubai light sour crude - it currently is around $27 for near-month futures price.

Enough about crude oil prices, I think you get the picture. Anybody out there know where we can reference the OPEC basket price quickly?

To my mind, the politicians, market makers, and now journalists are fanning the flames of another collective conciousness mood swing. Screaming about 300% increases in oil prices this year is neither accurate, fair, nor rational - and if a guy used the same kind of cheap tricks to sell cars, he'd be hauled into court by the county attorney.

We all know that $10 crude was an extreme and momentary aberration, brought about by the same sh*theads who, at the time, were screaming about the world awash in a sea of oil. Remember the missing barrels? Nobody else in a position of responsibility seems to. And now the public spotlight of attention is swinging back to the oil producers, with blame waiting in the wings.

I believe at least part of this unfolding dynamic is a subtle strategy on the part of OPEC to determine (a) just what is the level of stored production and (b) just what is the true consumption of the western world, their biggest market. Not a case of a conspiracy or plot, you understand, more a case of gently applying guidance to a certain building momentum. One way to determine (a) and (b) is to hold production more or less steady in the face of a rising demand until people begin to holler. OPEC manifests enough of the world's consumption to be in a position of sufficient strength for just that. A new concensus is gradually formed as the topic moves upward in the ranks of daily importance, with contributions from governments, think tanks, analysts, and journalists.

All in all, I think it's been as well managed as possible - no abrupt shocks to the system yet, rather a gradual increase in the volume and stridency of the shortfall warnings. Are we in serious trouble in the US? I don't think so, although it's going to take some very hard work to meet demands - certainly a different mentality must replace the current one, at the level of federal and state governments.

Just my two pennies worth.

Regards, to all,

Aggie



To: GREENLAW4-7 who wrote (72215)9/4/2000 8:23:26 PM
From: in_outdaily  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Greenlaw;

Your expectation of a OSX correction is understandable, since the OSX has never managed (since early 1998) to sustain a meaningful rally that doesn't fade whenever some OPEC yahoo exhales. <grin>

HOWEVER, the perceptions of almost everyone have changed 180 degrees since those dark days in Jan 1999. This change in perceptions is extremely bullish IMHO. Story after story is priming the pump about NG/oil shortages.

I'd be nimble on the short side of any OSX stock...

As noted in previous posts, I trade HAL both long and short quite frequently. Personally, I'm hoping for another substantial dip so I can load up again. In the mean time, I scalp HAL whenever the opportunity allows. (Picked up 2 1/2 points last week on HALs fluctuations.)

TA wise, HALs daily charts show that the MACD has turned negative, but the weekly chart is still showing a lot of strength and the 60 minute chart has just turned upward again...

You may get a decent enough dip to cover your shorts for a profit prior to the upcoming OPEC meeting, but I think you'll have to be quick to do so.

My 2 cents

Bill