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To: greenspirit who wrote (34427)	9/3/2000 1:32:49 PM
From: Mr. Whist	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

I respect your opinion. You have stated one side of the argument (albeit with far too many sweeping generalizations). There also is another side, as I have tried to state. Here's another thing to consider: At my place of employment, one is not obligated to join the union, and 25 percent of the employees have chosen to remain non-union. There is no discrimination against these people. We work side by side as a team. When asked why they don't join, they usually mutter something about the dues being too high ($13 a week). Never has someone told me that he or she did so out for political reasons. Does it upset me that, when I negotiate a contract with management, these people also benefit as much as I do? Not really. If they can look themselves in the mirror every morning and are happy that others are working for their benefit, that's their business. Me? I prefer to put my money where my beliefs are, thank you. I have many faults but being a free-loader is not one of them.

To: greenspirit who wrote (34427)	9/3/2000 4:03:57 PM
From: Mr. Whist	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Re: "Your (union) leadership is simply failing its members by not effectively working with business leaders on shared goals and common visions." I suggest you revisit some of the auto contracts hammered out the past dozen years. You will indeed see a high degree of cooperation between the UAW and Ford-GM-Chrysler, a fact echoed also by negotiators on the management side of the table. As I have tried to explain in previous posts, unions are a far cry today from the smokestack days of the '50s. Yes, in an ideal world all companies would pay their employees a decent wage and working conditions would be wonderful and we wouldn't need unions. But , alas, we don't live in an ideal world.