To: slacker711 who wrote (2783 ) 9/5/2000 6:51:09 PM From: Eric L Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 197356 Slacker, Reasonable minds can differ. << I think I am looking at it a little differently. I view the MSM5105 as a temporary chipset which has likely been brought into the product roadmap at the last minute to support a roll-out of 1xrtt by China Unicom during the first half of next year. >> I look at the MSM5000 as a temporary chipset and have for some time. The MSM5000 chipset is designed to the original (call it a draft, don't call it a draft) 1x specification, not the published IS-2000 standard, and without an R-UIM interface, it is not 3G3. I just bored Ben with some words on that but I won't belabor it. Forget the R-UIM interface. Not to many carriers are willing to take delivery of products that do not comply to a standard. << Of course, I am assuming that the MSM5100 is still part of Q's product roadmap.... >> I'm betting it is history, and will reappear on the roadmap with different nomenclature, but not till Revision B is close to being published. The MSM5100 or its equivalent is a long, long way away. But your right, the MSM3300 feature set as well as (at least an approximation of) the IMT-2000 pedestrian data rates that were to be incorporated into the MSM5100 are both important. I am darned sure hopeful that 1x RTT will start to roll out on Verizon well before the MSM5100 chips begin to ship, and I hope the market is seeded with phones. << Let's say a customer in the US wanted to buy a handset which supported SIM during the first half of next year. At this point, handsets with the MSM3300 should be available. These would support roaming across IS-95A/B networks as well as using the SIM to roam onto GSM networks >> I'm the customer, I bought 2 phones from Verizon this year. If Verizon released a phone with SIM, no way would I buy it with another MSM3xxx, with 1xrtt services coming right behind it. I'd keep the VoiceStream sub and Bosch. Anyhow ... a new roadmap or a press release would be nice. - Eric -