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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (702)	9/6/2000 12:13:45 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

Todays Bible reading for your edification Acts 17:16-33 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him when he saw that the city was given over to idols. 17 Therefore he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and with the Gentile worshipers, and in the marketplace daily with those who happened to be there. 18 Then F77 certain Epicurean and Stoic philosophers encountered him. And some said, "What does this babbler want to say?" Others said, "He seems to be a proclaimer of foreign gods," because he preached to them Jesus and the resurrection. 19 And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, "May we know what this new doctrine is of which you speak? 20 For you are bringing some strange things to our ears. Therefore we want to know what these things mean." 21 For all the Athenians and the foreigners who were there spent their time in nothing else but either to tell or to hear some new thing. 22 Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, "Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; 23 for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one blood F78 every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.' 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead." 32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked, while others said, "We will hear you again on this matter." 33 So Paul departed from among them. 34 However, some men joined him and believed, among them Dionysius the Areopagite, a woman named Damaris, and others with them.

To: Greg or e who wrote (702)	9/6/2000 5:08:09 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

What are you having a problem with in this contradiction? Here are some translations: OF Three Days Journey The city was so big that it took three days just to walk through it. The city was so big that it took three days just to walk through it. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three-day journey [in extent) three days' journey in breadth, 3 days just to walk through it ____________________________________________________ A 3 day journey in EXTENT, a 3 day journey in BREADTH, a 3 day journey just to walk THROUGH it. Where are you having a problem understanding this? Do you think God wants us to believe that the City had 3 days EXTENT or BREADTH because He knows we will assume (without it needing to be mentioned) that if you stay in a hotel or stop to preach...this will change the breadth of the City? Do we simply have to find the right translations then, and follow with a million or so assumptions and conjectures before we can rescue the confused thinking of the PERFECT LORD?? Is the person reading the NEW REVISED STANDARD VERSION somehow getting cheated out of the inerrant word of the Lord? Yours is the straw man argument. It is you trying to avoid the clearness of the text and pretend we are only trying to consider if the statement can be made true by assuming Jonah wanders around a great deal. With this the argument of city size can never be debated can it. The text could have said it was 10,000,000 miles in extent (or breadth) and you would say: Yes, yes, yes!!! If you wander around long enough! Or let's find a translation that allows us to obfuscate the clarity with nonsensical propositions? PITIFUL! American Standard Version, 1901 ed. Chapter 3 1 And the word of Jehovah came unto Jonah the second time, saying, 2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee. 3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of Jehovah. The city was so big that it took three days just to walk through it. . 4And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey Contemporary English Version 3 Jonah obeyed the LORD and went to Nineveh. The city was so big that it took three days just to walk through it. Darby Translation 1 And the word of Jehovah came unto Jonah the second time, saying, 2 Arise, go to Nineveh, the great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I shall bid thee. 3 And Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of Jehovah. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey. 4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey King James Version 1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying, 2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee. 3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey. 4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey :: New American Standard Bible (NASB) Jonah 3 1 Now the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying, 2 ""Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and proclaim to it the proclamation which I am going to tell you.'' 3 So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three days' walk. 4 Then Jonah began to go through the city one day's walk (NKJV) Jonah 3:1 Now the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying, 2 "Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and preach to it the message that I tell you." 3 So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three-day journey [in extent.] 4 And Jonah began to enter the city on the first day's walk The New Revised Standard Version Jonah 3 3:1 The word of the Lord came to Jonah a second time, saying, "Get up, go to Nineveh, that great city, and proclaim to it the message that I tell you." So Jonah set out and went to Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly large city, a three days' walk across. Jonah began to go into the city, going a day's walk. And he cried out, "Forty days more, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!" :: Revised Standard Version (RSV) Jonah 3 1 Then the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying, 2 "Arise, go to Nin'eveh, that great city, and proclaim to it the message that I tell you." 3 So Jonah arose and went to Nin'eveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nin'eveh was an exceedingly great city, three days' journey in breadth. 4 Jonah began to go into the city, going a day's journey Young's Literal Translation