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To: Scumbria who wrote (109544)	9/8/2000 7:08:41 PM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 186894

Scumbria, re: "Have you read Tom's discussion of this? The application was very memory bandwidth dependent, and the slight per clock performance increase in P4 was much less than should be expected. The implication being that a T-Bird with DDR will blow away the P4 on Intel's pride and joy benchmark." The "implications" (and the many contrary "results") are 100% speculation until the the final production products are released, don't you agree? John

To: Scumbria who wrote (109544)	9/8/2000 7:13:33 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "The implication being that a T-Bird with DDR will blow away the P4 on Intel's pride and joy benchmark" Speaking of which, have you seen the latest SPEC2000FP benchmarks AMD released for 1.1GHz TTurd? spec.org Needless to say, it's beaten easily by the slower 1GHz CuMine. EP

To: Scumbria who wrote (109544)	9/8/2000 7:30:32 PM
From: Windsock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Scumbria Re: Benchmarks I guess it might be a good idea to wait for real systems before we make a conclusive judgment on P4 performance. And the same is true for unavailable Athlon systems. Can you agree with this? On another subject, I think the expectation that P4 will only be available with RDRAM is not correct. Intel has clearly stated that it is looking at other memory types. The real question is when the "other" memory support will appear for the P4. The P4 introduction will not for long, or perhaps not even from the first day, depend on RDRAM.