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To: Rande Is who wrote (34481)9/12/2000 10:43:20 AM
From: Kanetsu  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 57584
 
Don't forget IMCO, fuel cells for cars and better financials than most fuel cell plays (haven't checked all of them), mentioned it here about 2 weeks ago at 22.



To: Rande Is who wrote (34481)9/12/2000 11:00:22 AM
From: jbkelle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 57584
 
Fuel Cells...UTX is a very safe and broad-based fuel cell play by way of International Fuel Cells, their wholly-owned subsidiary. They will be #2 in the automotive space, plus they have a large established presence in large and mid-sized fuel cells for utilities and industrial/commercial spaces. UTX can also be played for increased spending in the aerospace and DoD businesses. New technologies being developed will make zinc-air cells obsolete for all but large fleet service of on-highway and off-highway applications. JBK



To: Rande Is who wrote (34481)9/12/2000 11:04:45 AM
From: Triffin  Respond to of 57584
 
Rande ..

Here's a link to a portfolio of
Alternate energy / conditioned power stocks

Portfolio assumes $10,000 per position
Start date Aug 1, 2000 except for a couple
of IPO's after Aug 1st .. +33% for August ..

siliconinvestor.com

Jim in CT ..



To: Rande Is who wrote (34481)9/12/2000 12:25:14 PM
From: BSD  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57584
 
FCEL is the real deal. Their speciality is molten carbonate fuel cells which are GREAT for the generation of LOTS of power. Not a vehicle technology. They have the benefit of thousands of hours of testing and are currently running THEIR headquarters in Danbury CT off of one of their hybrid FC stacks. Since MCFC give off allot of heat efficiency can be increased by adding a turbine. FCEL is testing this new component of their system on the system at their headquarters now. They are currently cranking up to go to market with this well tested product. FYI I'm not a newbie on the fuel cell front. Been with FCEL since 7/98 when it was called Energy Research Corp.

Having said all this, it has had a HUGE run up lately. I'd wait and see how it responds to the split which goes into effect this week.



To: Rande Is who wrote (34481)9/12/2000 9:24:31 PM
From: CH4  Respond to of 57584
 
Pssst would you like to know the the truth ... unfortunately none of your picks are real ... Global Thermoelectric (GLE on the TSE) is the one you need if you really want to make bags of money.(Small float huge upside)

Fuel Cells - From Fundamentals to Systems ... Editoral Board

Editor and Chief:

Ulrich Stimming is Professor of Physics at the Technische Universität München and Scientific Head of the Division "Energy Conversion and Storage" of the Bavarian Center for Applied Energy Research (ZAE Bayern), Germany.

Editors:

Dave Ghosh is Vice President of the Fuel Cell Division of Global Thermoelectric Inc., Canada.

Shimshon Gottesfeld is Technical Project Leader for the Fuel Cell Research Program at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL), USA.

Albert Hammerschmidt is based at Siemens AG, Germany. He is in charge of "PEM Fuel Cells for Mobile Applications" which is a part of the Siemens business unit Automation and Industrial Services (ATD).

Dietmar Hein is Professor of Power Engineering at the Technische Universität München and Scientific Head of the Division "Solar Thermal and Biomass" of the Bavarian Center for Applied Energy Research (ZAE Bayern), Germany.

Johannes Töpler is Senior Manager for "Fuel Cells System Projects" at DaimlerChrysler AG.

Frederick T. Wagner is based at General Motors Inc. and working in the "General Motors Fuel Cell program (GAPC)".

Masahiro Watanabe is Professor of Applied Chemistry at the Yamanashi University, Japan.

Assistant Editor: Stefan Haufe Department of Physics E19, Technische Universität München, Germany.

Publisher: Wiley-VCH P.O. Box 10 11 61 D - 69451 Weinheim Germany

A Letter From The Editor-in-Chief Ulrich Stimming

Dear Colleagues,

Fuel-cell technology is presently undergoing an exciting phase of development. It is at the cutting edge of a revolution in the energy conversion in stationary power plants, in powering road vehicles, and in portable electrical devices. The current situation is characterized by huge industrial investments in, and high political expectations for, fuel cells as the potential key energy technology of the 21st century. Fuel cells are expected to reduce both fossil fuel consumption and greenhouse gas emission considerably within one generation.

This situation requires a close cooperation between various disciplines from fundamental research to applied engineering. This aspect of interaction instead of independence has become a reality in contemporary research and development - but it is not yet mirrored in the landscape of scientific, not magazine-type, journals. Until now, information on materials, stack technology and system approaches has been rather dispersed over a number of traditional journals, which are dedicated to classical disciplines such as electrochemistry, materials science or engineering. So they provide many small windows which allow only limited views on special aspects. Here Fuel Cells - From Fundamentals to Systems steps in and reveals the entire vista for interdisciplinary scientific work and discussion of all aspects of fuel cell systems.

Time is money - and Fuel Cells - From Fundamentals to Systems will provide quick access with the shortest publication times possible to the latest scientific and technical information in one source. To achieve this goal, we convinced a board of excellent editors to join us. It represents all important disciplines and is well-balanced
between fundamental science and industrial development in the fuel cell area: four editors are academic researchers and four are experts from globally leading industrial companies. This will ensure up-to-date information and a high standard of contributions.

Let us together open the window for a complete view on fuel-cell technology. I am sure that you will share our
excitement about this new venture that will serve the growing need for all information in one source. Fuel Cells -
From Fundamentals to Systems will greatly intensify the exchange between chemists, physicists, material scientists, and chemical, electrical and mechanical engineers who are contributing to a technology that may change our daily life very soon.

With best wishes

Ulrich Stimming
fuelcells.mail@ph.tum.de
Technische Universität München
Germany

wiley-vch.de ... original

globalte.com ... review of Global's fuel cell progress with Delphi Automotive and newest ally Enbridge Inc.

globalte.com ... GLE's homepage

Fuel Cell 2000 Conference, Portland, Oregon October 28 - November 2 2000
Global will be presenting paper on SOFCs and Remote Power Applications and also a paper on SOFC Automotive Applications with Delphi Automotive Systems.

Best of all GLE's fuel cells are made with existing high speed computer chip industry type methods without precious metals or expensive membranes. They also work equally well with pure hydrogen or any organic hydrocarbon fuel such as regular gasoline, house natural gas, propane etc. with double the efficiency of the other types of fuel cells you mentioned, without producing any pollutants in the process.



To: Rande Is who wrote (34481)9/12/2000 9:30:45 PM
From: CH4  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 57584
 
Pssst would you like to know the the truth ... unfortunately none of your picks are real ... Global Thermoelectric (GLE on the TSE) is the one you need if you really want to make bags of money.(Small float huge upside) ... Fuel Cells - From Fundamentals to Systems ... Editoral Board

Editor and Chief:

Ulrich Stimming is Professor of Physics at the Technische Universität München and Scientific Head of the Division "Energy Conversion and Storage" of the Bavarian Center for Applied Energy Research (ZAE Bayern), Germany.

Editors:

Dave Ghosh is Vice President of the Fuel Cell Division of Global Thermoelectric Inc., Canada.

Shimshon Gottesfeld is Technical Project Leader for the Fuel Cell Research Program at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL), USA.

Albert Hammerschmidt is based at Siemens AG, Germany. He is in charge of "PEM Fuel Cells for Mobile Applications" which is a part of the Siemens business unit Automation and Industrial Services (ATD).

Dietmar Hein is Professor of Power Engineering at the Technische Universität München and Scientific Head of the Division "Solar Thermal and Biomass" of the Bavarian Center for Applied Energy Research (ZAE Bayern), Germany.

Johannes Töpler is Senior Manager for "Fuel Cells System Projects" at DaimlerChrysler AG.

Frederick T. Wagner is based at General Motors Inc. and working in the "General Motors Fuel Cell program (GAPC)".

Masahiro Watanabe is Professor of Applied Chemistry at the Yamanashi University, Japan.

Assistant Editor: Stefan Haufe Department of Physics E19, Technische Universität München, Germany.

Publisher: Wiley-VCH P.O. Box 10 11 61 D - 69451 Weinheim Germany

A Letter From The Editor-in-Chief Ulrich Stimming

Dear Colleagues,

Fuel-cell technology is presently undergoing an exciting phase of development. It is at the cutting edge of a revolution in the energy conversion in stationary power plants, in powering road vehicles, and in portable electrical devices. The current situation is characterized by huge industrial investments in, and high political expectations for, fuel cells as the potential key energy technology of the 21st century. Fuel cells are expected to reduce both fossil fuel consumption and greenhouse gas emission considerably within one generation.

This situation requires a close cooperation between various disciplines from fundamental research to applied engineering. This aspect of interaction instead of independence has become a reality in contemporary research and development - but it is not yet mirrored in the landscape of scientific, not magazine-type, journals. Until now, information on materials, stack technology and system approaches has been rather dispersed over a number of traditional journals, which are dedicated to classical disciplines such as electrochemistry, materials science or engineering. So they provide many small windows which allow only limited views on special aspects. Here Fuel Cells - From Fundamentals to Systems steps in and reveals the entire vista for interdisciplinary scientific work and discussion of all aspects of fuel cell systems.

Time is money - and Fuel Cells - From Fundamentals to Systems will provide quick access with the shortest publication times possible to the latest scientific and technical information in one source. To achieve this goal, we convinced a board of excellent editors to join us. It represents all important disciplines and is well-balanced
between fundamental science and industrial development in the fuel cell area: four editors are academic researchers and four are experts from globally leading industrial companies. This will ensure up-to-date information and a high standard of contributions.

Let us together open the window for a complete view on fuel-cell technology. I am sure that you will share our
excitement about this new venture that will serve the growing need for all information in one source. Fuel Cells -
From Fundamentals to Systems will greatly intensify the exchange between chemists, physicists, material scientists, and chemical, electrical and mechanical engineers who are contributing to a technology that may change our daily life very soon.

With best wishes

wiley-vch.de ... original link

globalte.com ... review of Global's fuel cell progress with Delphi Automotive and newest ally Enbridge Inc.

globalte.com ... GLE's homepage

Fuel Cell 2000 Conference, Portland, Oregon October 28 - November 2 2000
Global will be presenting paper on SOFCs and Remote Power Applications and also a paper on SOFC Automotive Applications with Delphi Automotive Systems.

Best of all GLE's fuel cells are made with existing high speed computer chip industry type methods without precious metals or expensive membranes. They also work equally well with pure hydrogen or any organic hydrocarbon fuel such as regular gasoline, house natural gas, propane etc. with double the efficiency of the other types of fuel cells you mentioned, without producing any pollutants in the process. They're 85% efficient overall when used for co-generation.



To: Rande Is who wrote (34481)9/12/2000 10:08:43 PM
From: Zeuspaul  Respond to of 57584
 
Not buying FCEL, CPST, HPOW or other "me too" recent IPOs.

FCEL became a publicly held company in 1992 (name was Energy Research Corporation)and traded on the AMEX symbol ERC. It became Fuel Cell Energy when it spun off the battery division EVRC. It recently began trading on the NASDAQ with the symbol FCEL.

Definately not a me too IPO. It has a conservative management that has never hyped the stock. It has been an undiscovered gem for a long time.

It is almost alone in the pack as it is now moving from development stage to production. IMO it is still undervalued if compared to BLDP's capitalization. BLPD has had the benefit of good PR. FCEL has been quietly developing a good fuel cell. They are not producing fuel cells for the same market.

I wouldn't get into FCEL right now due to the recent run up. However I said the same thing a month ago and it has since doubled. It seemed like a no brainer to me in 1997..cleaner and more efficient than the existing power producers. It is the equivalent of a huge oil/gas discovery. The FCEL fuel cells run on natural gas and do not require infrastructure changes.

Zeuspaul



To: Rande Is who wrote (34481)9/13/2000 6:11:24 AM
From: Walkingshadow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57584
 
Rande, are you home?

RE: << Not buying FCEL, CPST, HPOW or other "me too" recent IPOs. >>

I wouldn't dismiss out of hand the likes of CPST or FCEL--- or, for that matter (although not in your 'me too' list), ACPW or the upcoming IPO BCON (Beacon) as "me too" technologies.

CPST, for one, is hardly a "me too". They don't make anything that looks, smells, sounds, walks like, quacks like, or even rhymes with fuel cell. They make microturbines. State of the art, that is. An art, incidentally, which is more developed than fuel cell technology, much of which is still in beta or even alpha, running up rather costly research bills at universities and corporate R&D facilities. The only thing they have in common with fuel cells is that the micros they make require some sort of fuel to make them go. The "me too" ends there.

Capstone's technology is more mature than any of the others you mention. They have real product, real customers, real revenue, real patent portfolio, real ambition, real vision-----and thus, a real future, IMHO. Their goal is to provide highly reliable backup---or stand alone---power to the digital economy. Not homes (though that's plausible), or vehicles (though CPST's micros have been powering buses longer than BLDP's fuel cells). You might seriously consider them.

capstoneturbine.com

Capstone manufactures a 30kW micro, with a 60kW model due out Q1 '01. Costs $30K at the moment, with costs expected to drop substantially as economies of scale enable this to occur. Runs on just about any fuel, even trash dump waste methane, and is nearly pollution free (NOx < 5ppm; one micro in La Puente, CA running on landfill methane produces 1.3 ppm, qualifying it as zero emissions; that's green). They are quiet, about the size of a large refrigerator (weight 1,082 lbs), can be run indoors or out, in all temperatures and weather, and in remote locations. They are extremely reliable and simply engineered (single shaft, no oil, patented air bearing system). They can be arranged in redundant parallel "10 pack" RAID arrays, with "plug and play", hot-swappable scaleability, and they can be remotely monitored via modem. Their power electronics (MOSFETs, IGBTs, etc.) ensure the delivery of extremely high nines power, either ride through or stand alone, as well as seamless power handoffs (in the case of ride through systems) which disrupt neither downstream load nor upstream grid. Output from the generator which spins on the same shaft as the turbine (96,000 rpm) is 1600 Hz AC, converted via power semiconductors to rock steady 480 VAC or 100 to 400 VDC. For ride-through systems, excess power generated can even be distributed back onto the grid and sold.

Capstone puts its money where its mouth is: one entire section of Capstone's new plant is completely off-grid, running 24/7 solely on it's own microturbines at 6 or 7 nines reliability (i.e., a reliability 3 or 4 orders of magnitude better than the best the grid can ever hope to offer). Their primary market (at this point) is the replacement of the untold tons of battery arrays which currently provide expensive, not terribly reliable, toxic backup power to the digital economy. They sell a solution which today is a cost-effective, green alternative to such battery arrays, which take up enormous space, and must be replaced every few years. Running costs are about one third that of a similar output diesel genset, with far less maintenance required, and more reliability.

IMHO, CPST will easily eclipse BLDP in time. Matter of fact, BLDP now appears to be backing off from targeting vehicles for its technology. Long term, they seem to be seeing the same handwriting on the walls that CPST, FCEL, BCON, and other "me toos" saw years ago. Ballard Power Systems is a joint Ballard/GPU/ALSTOM SA/EBARA venture which finished its first prototype 250kW fuel-cell based power plant a year ago, and anticipates shipping commercial product in two or three years. Obviously, plants this size are not intended for vehicles of any kind.

And FCEL---another "me too"---is way ahead of them there, blurring the distinction between "first to market" and "me too" just a tad. FCEL is shipping 300kW to 3MW fuel cell based power plant units right now. So is ONSI, a division of UTX. Neither is going after the automobile market, partly because that's not where the real money will be made. Assuming, that is, that an acceptable, functioning, reliable fuel cell technology can be cost-effectively mass produced for automobiles, and is superior to currently available automobile technology. No small task----people have been trying to develop electric and various hybrid vehicles for decades. The result: no car.

In a sublimely ironic twist of fate (and history and Mr. Market are nothing if not imbued with a seeming delight in ironic twists of fate)----it just might be BLDP which ends up being the "me too", ultimately striking out in the automotive world, and instead relegated to playing frantic catch up with the likes of----you guessed it----FCEL.

Detroit still sells mass-produced internal combustion engines, which so far have proven superior overall, all things considered. That could change, of course, but it is hardly a foregone conclusion that cars in the foreseeable future will inevitably be fuel cell powered. Remember, for generations, Detroit (and Tokyo) has hired a small army of fairly innovative automotive engineers. I doubt that they have been sitting around waiting for BLDP to burst onto the scene like some Messiah to solve all their environmental and power problems........

And consider this fact, and how it might affect BLDP's future, and why BLDP now appears to be shifting direction away from automobiles: The new Nissan Sentra CA burns gasoline in a standard internal combustion engine, but with three catalytic converters, and meets California's Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle (SULEV) standard. So does the new Honda Civic GX (also an internal combustion engine). Do Nissan and Honda really need BLDP? And, if they don't, why would Detroit? I'd bet you dollars to protons that Detroit is rapidly nearing its own internal combustion solution to meet SULEV, also without the grace of BLDP. Why pay more? Why pay anyone if you don't have to? This is big business after all, not ooooh aaahh Popular Science: If you really need the technology, buy it, or obviate it with your own solution, but don't pay anyone for it if you don't have to.

<< I'm waiting for the Hybrid electric version... >>

So is the rest of the world. For three or four decades now.

<< High oil prices are the catalyst for todays move. >>

Nope. Oil is no longer the relevant fuel. Electrons are. Microprocessors continue to proliferate around the planet, and not a single one runs on oil. The digital economy is solidly electron based. [okay, okay, photonic phanatics: also based on photons, the quantum cousin to the electron, but still photons ultimately have to be transformed back into electrons to complete microcircuits] And, even electron production is becoming less and less dependent on oil [have you noticed that the steadily rising oil prices have produced exactly zero inflationary effects? This would not have been the case 25 years ago, as anyone who lived through the "oil crisis" will attest to]. New power plants are increasingly gas-fired turbines (Check out Calpine and their rapidly growing portfolio, for example), which are cheaper, greener, and more efficient than other power plants, including nuclear. If I could, I would buy long-term puts on OPEC.

[Did you notice the distinct lack of repercussions from their Sunday meeting? I remember a day when everyone got more nervous about OPEC meetings than they now do about FOMC meetings, and people used "OPEC" and "extortion" in the same sentence routinely.]

Overall growth rate in power consumption in the US is 2% per year, but digital-related power requirements are growing at 30% per year in wattage terms. That two percent figure will be much higher, but for now the denominator is very large. That will change rapidly: electricity accounted for 25% of our energy consumption 25 years ago, now accounts for 37%, and in a decade or two this figure will be 50%, with the vast majority of this increase derived from digital power requirements, not more TVs, light bulbs, electric motors, and air conditioners. It is digital devices, not electric motors, which are explosively infiltrating every area of society and upon which we are becoming increasingly dependent. The huge economic advantages afforded by digital devices of all types will inexorably drive demand for clean, highly reliable power sources, only an insignificant fraction of which will be derived from an antiquated power infrastructure which is inherently and inescapably incapable of meeting the power reliability imperative of the expanding digital infrastructure.

<< So do not misunderstand what is happening. Fuel Cells are not a fad. . . >>

Yes. Yes. Couldn't agee with you more. But the first sentence is critically important.

So, Rande, if you're home.......and you've got a few hours to kill, count up all the digital devices multiplying like rabbits all over your home. And don't forget the myriad devices quietly but increasingly incorporating RISC processors, which account for 97% or so of all microprocessors manufactured annually. Bet you've got hundreds, maybe even thousands in your home, and several on your body-----your wristwatch, for example. That should be enough to convince you that the overwhelming focus going forward-----in your home and mine, not to mention the vast majority of institutions and businesses of all kinds-----is not about cars and oil, but electrons, sir, electrons. Pinpoint the pivotal controllers of the electrons, and you will thereby pinpoint investments that will inevitably bring enormous wealth to those with the perspicacity to see it---for decades to come. You one day might be surprised to find that some of your "me toos" are among them.

And, sir, I sincerely hope when that day arrives, we are both pleasantly surprised to discover that we correctly identified these companies----presently infant King Kongs, perhaps-----prospectively.

As always, JMVHO..........

Regards,

Walkingshadow