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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (17045)9/13/2000 4:32:30 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Respond to of 17770
 
Dead slow!....and the unrest is worsening: soon, farmers and other trades will join truckdrivers and cabbies in their "Brussels siege". Eventually, European governments will alleviate the demonstrators' oil bill --but at the expense of other, less vocal, "guilds". Indeed, as EU governments will put the oil hike on their slates, welfarites such as the jobless, small retirees, along with the usual fall guys (teachers, nurses, etc.) will see their budget slices trimmed by several billions of $.... In the long run it'll mean a lower aggregate take-home pay, hence an already lame EU recovery choked off by a lower buying power. Since the smaller the take-home pay, the larger its share in consumer demand. All in all, this whole oil crisis boils down to a zero-sum game: as gasoline prices will be kept unchanged throughout Europe despite rising crude oil prices, the welfare state will write huge oil taxes off, so, in order to balance the budget, social expenditures will get the ax.... Bottom line: the euro is in for another drift.

Gus.



To: Tom Clarke who wrote (17045)9/13/2000 5:37:19 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Respond to of 17770
 
Tuesday September 12 6:36 PM ET
EU Echelon To Probe U.S. Chiefs

By CONSTANT BRAND, Associated Press Writer


BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - Senior members of a European Union committee said Tuesday they want U.S. intelligence chiefs to testify on whether an alleged American-led eavesdropping network monitors the businesses of its European allies.

European Parliament Vice President Gerhard Schmid, a German who is a senior member on the committee investigating the alleged Echelon spy network, said he would like to see the U.S. National Security Agency head, Air Force Lt. Gen. Michael V. Hayden, come before the committee.

Schmid said he wants the American intelligence chiefs to discuss how the NSA gathers intelligence.

``If it's up to me, we will have American representatives, perhaps even U.S. senators and the director of the NSA,'' Schmid told reporters.

In testimony before the U.S. House Intelligence Committee in April, Hayden and CIA Director George Tenet denied reports the United States was involved in spying on Europeans and Americans as part of a satellite surveillance network.

Committee chairman Carlos Coelho of Portugal said that a list of industry experts, politicians, U.S. and EU officials would be called before the committee.

The Echelon issue surfaced in February when a European Parliament report outline what it said were Echelon's practices.

It said Echelon intercepts ``billions of messages per hour,'' including telephone calls, fax transmissions and private e-mails.
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dailynews.yahoo.com

You know what, the more I think about that Echelon fuss the more, in hindsight, I suspect that the real target of the European bureaucracy is the NSA itself! The NSA's pristine integrity as regards the White House and the primacy of the US executive branch over other constituent powers is not to please the Bilderbergers and other transatlantic profiteers who, so far, have relied on the CIA to oil the wheels of the Euro-American coupledom....

After all, compared to the highly secretive, Spartan NSA, the CIA is basically a wildcat outfit crawling with MOSSAD moles, British double agents, and Europhile intelligencers eager to tip off the French or the Germans about the latest twists and turns of the US President's foreign policy --especially if the White House's current tenant is some Afreakan Democrat resolved to "save the world"!

That's what really pisses Europeans off: they just don't have any NSA insider on their grass payroll.... The CIA, on the other hand, is such a glasshouse: even its former top dog was actually an Israeli, Bilderberger mole (John Deutch) and at field level, most CIA roughnecks, mobsters and mercenaries share the same values and prejudices as their French, British, or even Belgian counterparts --that is, basically, the Third World as one big, life-sized, wog-shooting gallery.... But the NSA.... Good gracious! Here we're dealing with a whole new ballgame: computer geeks headed by some Colonel Blimp!

So, if you ask me, the undercurrent message from Europe is crystal-clear: let not the jingo NSA take over the CIA in outlining the intelligence policy of the USA. The Echelon grievance? Gimme a break: the French have developed their own Frenchelon, after all:

"Frenchelon": France's Alleged Global Surveillance Network And its Implications on International Intelligence Cooperation

Kenneth Neil Cukier
Communications Week International
24.03.1999



"In Europe, we talk about the four freedoms of the Union -- freedom for the flow of information, of the mobility of people, freedom of goods and freedom of services -- but there is a fifth freedom: Intelligence. Nations want to retain the freedom to spy." -- A European Commission official, October 1998.

* * *

While ECHELON, the United States- and United Kingdom-led global surveillance program gains widespread notoriety, there is evidence that European countries are also carrying out international surveillance activities.

France reportedly has developed its own "Frenchelon" -- a worldwide network of spy satellites and listening stations that systematically eavesdrop on communications in the United States and elsewhere. Monitoring stations are said to exist in French Guiana, in the city of Domme in the Dordogne region of southwestern France, in New Caledonia, and in the United Arab Emirates.

The information gleaned is reportedly used for both political and commercial ends. Additionally, some speculate that the French project may mark the first step in a pan-European effort to counterbalance the U.S.'s global spying capabilities. Germany is said to partially fund France's initiative in return for access to the information it collects.

The French project is said to be run under the Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure, an organization similar to the U.S.'s Central Intelligence Agency, and that commercial information is sent directly to the presidents of large French companies as well as government officials.
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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (17045)9/13/2000 12:09:43 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
ECHELON Follow-up:

Now I come to think of it, even the CIA itself could have a stake in this Echelon put-up job against the NSA.... After all, the latter ain't your grandpa's spook bazaar anymore --here's an excerpt of the NSA's "mission statement" right from the its official website:

Who is the NSA?

NSA employs the country's premier codemakers and codebreakers. It is said to be the largest employer of mathematicians in the United States and perhaps the world. Its mathematicians contribute directly to the two missions of the Agency: designing cipher systems that will protect the integrity of U.S. information systems and searching for weaknesses in adversaries' systems and codes.

Technology and the world change rapidly, and great emphasis is placed on staying ahead of these changes with employee training programs. The National Cryptologic School is indicative of the Agency's commitment to professional development. The school not only provides unique training for the NSA workforce, but it also serves as a training resource for the entire Department of Defense. NSA sponsors employees for bachelor and graduate studies at the Nation's top universities and colleges, and selected Agency employees attend the various war colleges of the U.S. Armed Forces.

Most NSA/CSS employees, both civilian and military, are headquartered at Fort Meade, Maryland, centrally located between Baltimore and Washington, DC. Its workforce represents an unusual combination of specialties: analysts, engineers, physicists, mathematicians, linguists, computer scientists, researchers, as well as customer relations specialists, security officers, data flow experts, managers, administrative and clerical assistants.
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nsa.gov

Get the picture, Charles?? So many brains! So many computer wonks, crypto-whizz-kids and the like buzzing 24/7 in their secluded labs, snooping around every suspect email, spotting any cyber-discrepancy.... And guess what the CIA is doing in the meantime: these guys are still sweating blood over it the old-fashioned way! They'll scramble to wiretap bin Laden's cell phone instead of cracking the internet rerouter Bob Denard is using to communicate with the DGSE! LOL!

Well, 20 years ago, when the world was still "brick-and-mortar", the CIA was probably the US's best bet to deal with intelligence matters. However, times have changed.... In today's global cyberworld, mastering the new information paradigm has likely become a key element in furthering the U.S.'s intelligence missions. As the CIA --along with its European obligés-- fears to fall behind the NSA, it might secretly welcome an embattled NSA. Both agencies are somehow involved in a tug-of-love for the custody of their most cherished babe, that is, US intelligence --and their leadership in outlining the "big picture" (to the President, the State Dept, etc.)....

Gus.