To: Yamakita who wrote (11104 ) 9/13/2000 9:09:12 AM From: Apollo Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 17183 Hey Yamakita, you beat me to posting my own stuff, which I was about to do this AM. <g>Message 14370982 The Gorillas & King Candidates Thread thinks both EMC and NTAP are Kings in their respective realms. EMC, especially, is a dominant king, because, as was pointed out clearly in their presentation yesterday here in Boston, EMC is the only company that plays in all segments of storage, and is dominant or a co-leader in most of those. However, it does not own a proprietary open architecture around which a value chain has formed, and therefore is not a Gorilla. Using the term gorilla, the way Geoffrey Moore intended it to be used, is important as it relates to predicting future revenue growth because the Gorilla enjoys a much more prolonged Competitive Advantage Period. Kings can do great too, such as in the case of Dell the past 10 years. But, without a proprietary architecture, a day of reckoning may come, again, such as with Dell. EMC may continue as Market Leader for another 10 years, by outresearching the other guys, and by outselling and by outexecuting. But be forewarned as to the differences in risk between a Gorilla (MSFT with Operating Systems), and a King (Dell with PCs). Most on our thread think NTAP is a king, but DownSouth makes a persuasive case that it may be a Gorilla because of its WAFL filing software, which is proprietary. What I liked most about the presentation is that I finally understand the difference in market size, and the relationship between EMC and NTAP. That is, EMCs market is in 2000 is about $44 billion. The NAS submarket, in which EMC participates but NTAP dominates, is about $2 billion. This gives me a better perspective overall. EMC estimates the Storage Market to be about $77 billion by 2003. thanx in advance for the wonderful contributions here, especially by Bill F. and Gus. Apollo (back to lurk mode) Long EMC & NTAP