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To: Sharp_End_Of_Drill who wrote (73322)9/13/2000 4:07:23 PM
From: thestockrider  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
from the San Jose Mercury News:

State panel keeps rules on zero-emission cars
Mandate: Automakers required to deliver thousands of battery-powered vehicles to showrooms in two years to reduce state's smog.
BY PAUL ROGERS
Mercury News

SACRAMENTO -- California air officials on Friday voted to retain the most far-reaching electric car rules in the United States, requiring automakers to deliver thousands of battery-powered vehicles to showrooms in two years, even if substantial taxpayer subsidies will be necessary to attract buyers.

On an 11-0 vote, the California Air Resources Board approved keeping in place its ``zero-emission vehicle'' mandate, which it first adopted 10 years ago as a strategy to continue the state's progress in reducing smog.

``We must stay the course to reach our environmental and societal goals,'' said Alan Lloyd, chairman of the air board, an 11-member body appointed by Gov. Gray Davis.

``Leadership does not come without conflict or cost,'' Lloyd said. ``There are many challenges ahead, but the investment in this technology will stop without a regulatory signal.''

Environmental groups hailed the ruling as a milestone on the way to keep America's fledgling electric car industry on track and force new clean technologies such as fuel cell cars to the market in the coming decade.

``Every Californian can breathe easier,'' said Roland Hwang, a spokesman for the Union of Concerned Scientists, based in Oakland. ``Auto companies have to take these programs out of neutral and put them into gear.''

During a two-day hearing, however, automakers and car dealers painted the rules as a clumsy bureaucratic attempt to phase out the internal combustion engine that ignores market forces, and they questioned whether the public actually will buy the vehicles. They cited air board staff reports showing electric cars cost $35,000 or more and can go only about 100 miles before needing a six-hour recharge.

``We really don't want thousands of these cars sitting on our lots,'' said Peter Welch, director of government affairs for the California Motor Car Dealers Association, based in Sacramento. ``Somebody is going to get stuck holding a hot potato if they don't sell.''

The rules require that by 2003, up to 10 percent of new cars offered for sale in California by the six major auto manufacturers must emit no pollution. The only cars now certified as zero-emission vehicles are electric.

Of the 10 percent required, 4 percent must be pure zero-emission vehicles. The other 6 percent can be vehicles that emit nearly no pollution.

The practical impact? Ford, General Motors, Honda, Nissan, Toyota and Daimler-Chrysler must offer a combined total of 22,000 electric cars for sale every year in California.

That is a tenfold increase from the 2,300 electric cars now on the road statewide, according to air board figures. Most of those cars were sold with subsidies of up to $5,000 per vehicle that regional state air districts paid to carmakers.

On Friday, numerous owners of electric cars testified that they love their vehicles. They said the range limits are largely unimportant because most trips they take are less than 100 miles. They spoke of the benefits -- no need to buy gas or oil, a silent engine, no tailpipe pollution and a new state law that allows electric cars to ride in carpool lanes.

``Automakers are driving with the brakes on while the planet is being poisoned,'' said Jerry Pahorsky, a Sunnyvale engineer with Sun Microsystems who owns a 1997 General Motors EV-1. ``Be pro-choice. I want a choice in the dealer's showroom.''

Pahorsky and other owners said carmakers have made weak efforts to sell electric cars.

As part of pilot program three years ago, automakers agreed to sell about 2,000 electric cars in California. With those cars all sold or leased, they stopped marketing them and now sell almost exclusively to fleet operators such as the U.S. Postal Service. It is all but impossible for a regular motorist to find a new electric car for sale anywhere in California.

The auto industry has largely moved on to other alternative fuel technologies, such as hybrid cars, which run on a combination of batteries and gasoline -- recharging the engine as the wheels turn and brake -- or fuel cell cars, which emit no pollution and may be ready for market by 2005.

Honda is offering a hybrid car called the Insight for sale this year. The car delivers 70 miles to the gallon, emits less pollution than a new gasoline car and can drive 700 miles on a tank of gas. Similarly, the Toyota Prius, another hybrid car, is now for sale nationwide. Both cars retail for about $20,000 and do not require being plugged in for recharging.

As part of its order on Friday, the air board told its staff to return in January with some changes. They include: a study of new subsidies to help electric cars compete with gas cars; a proposed public education program; and suggestions on how to reduce battery costs. Every five years for example, the entire battery pack of most electric cars must be replaced, a $10,000 expense.

Friday's vote apparently was a fait acompli. Hours before the public had finished testifying, staff members already had printed the resolution, which the board passed virtually unchanged. ``It's mostly legalese anyway,'' said air board spokesman Jerry Martin. ``We always do it this way.''

Davis also supported keeping the rules unchanged.

Environmentalists say carmakers should be required to sell electric cars at a loss because they have made billions of dollars with gas-guzzling sport-utility vehicles. Having the electric car rule in place since 1990 has led to innovations such as cleaner burning gasoline cars, hybrid cars and fuel cell prototypes, they note.

Carmakers said the benefits of requiring electric cars -- a reduction of air pollution by only one to two tons a day by 2010, according to the air board staff -- are the most expensive air regulations the state has ever put in place, costing at least $500 million a year.

``Our stockholders are going to require we pass the costs on to buyers,'' said Dave Hermance, a spokesman for Toyota. ``And if costs go up, sales go down, and you don't get the air benefit anyway.''

Hermance said that because of high battery prices, it costs about $50,000 to manufacture each electric car, compared with less than $20,000 for gasoline cars. But electric car supporters and air board members predicted costs will fall as production increases, and that the health benefits of cleaner air are worth it.

``I certainly understand the automakers concern about losing money,'' said board member Joe Calhoun. ``But I think they'll be OK.''

My thoughts:
Fuel Cells will be economically viable many years into the future, not within the investment horizon of most investors and momo traders. The notion that Ford, GM, et alii are going to voluntarily spend billions or even millions of dollars on fuel cell products to use in their vehicles is a crock. They know their market, and that market is asking for SUVs even at $40 per barrel. And, if a favorable administration (read Republican) is elected, the auto makers will try to shelve programs like the one discussed above. It is doubtful that they will even have enough product to meet this state requirement. Anyone buying fuel cell stocks is a MOMO trader!

- thestockrider



To: Sharp_End_Of_Drill who wrote (73322)9/13/2000 5:33:51 PM
From: thestockrider  Respond to of 95453
 
Several articles in the July 2000 issue of Red Herring probably are part of the inspiration for the current run-up in Fuel Cell stocks. redherring.com The article I liked best, "Can Iceland Run on Hydrogen" talked about Iceland powering its fishing fleet and bus fleet with fuel cells. It said they were partnering with Shell, DaimlerChrysler, and Norsk Hydro to test fuel-cell buses and cars. Iceland's energy source for generating hydrogen is it abundant geothermal energy.

-thestockrider



To: Sharp_End_Of_Drill who wrote (73322)9/13/2000 8:57:32 PM
From: Zeuspaul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Some words about fuel cells, since most people don't seem to understand them.

They run on hydrogen which can be produced in three ways:


PEM fuel cells run on hydrogen. FCEL's molton carbonate direct fuel cell runs on hydrocarbons.

fuelcellenergy.com

FCE has developed a unique type of fuel cell it calls the "Direct Fuel Cell" that is multi-fuel capable. It can utilize natural gas, methanol, ethanol, bio-gas and any other fuel that contains methane.
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platinum used for a catalyst can be poisoned by sulfer or nitrogen contaminants in the gasoline,

To my knowledge no platinum is used in the FCEL direct fuel cells.

From the slide show presentation
fuelcellenergy.com

*Uses commonly available materials
*No noble metal catalyst
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FCELs fuel cell has been developed. It is going into production and will run on natural gas.

PEM fuel cells for automotive applications are still being developed by other manufacturers. The comments about hydrogen production and infrastructure are valid for PEM fuel cells but not for Fuel Cell Energy's Molton Carbonate direct fuel cell.

Zeuspaul



To: Sharp_End_Of_Drill who wrote (73322)9/13/2000 10:39:50 PM
From: Tomas  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Alternative fuels still outpaced by petrol. Despite rising oil prices, other energy sources are not yet competitive

"Both Honda and PSA believe that fossil fuels will continue to power most vehicles for several decades to come. If that is the case in the developed world, then the penetration of alternative fuels in emerging markets is likely to be even more limited."

Financial Times, September 14
By Tim Burt, Motor Industry Correspondent

The sight of protesters blockading oil refineries in Europe, and US politicians complaining at crude prices, has reminded the world's carmakers of the potential for alternative fuels.

For more than 40 years, Ford, General Motors and others have been researching new engine technologies. Aware that the world's oil will begin to dwindle in the 21st century, the motor manufacturers have spent billions of dollars experimenting with cars and trucks powered by gas, batteries and hydrogen fuel cells.

So far, however, the in-roads made by alternative fuels have been strictly limited. One reason remains price.

Although they are cheap, the availability of alternative fuels has failed to wean motorists away from petrol and diesel. For all the protests in western Europe, forecourt prices are below their peak in many countries. In the US, a gallon of petrol still costs about Dollars 1.55- Dollars 1.75 compared with about Dollars 1.90 for a large bottle of mineral water.

As long as petrol remains cheaper than water in the world's largest car market, there will be little incentive to adopt more environmentally friendly fuels. Last year, the 10 most fuel-efficient vehicles in the US accounted for just 0.1 per cent of new car sales.

The record in European countries such as Italy and the Netherlands is far better. Datamonitor, the independent market analyst, claims the European market for liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) - the most widely available alternative fuel - will grow by 5 per cent a year over the next decade.

A total of 5m cars are expected to rely on LPG by 2009, says Datamonitor.

Even so, that remains only a small proportion of the vehicles on Europe's roads. Sceptics who doubt its growth prospects point to the experience in New Zealand, where gas became popular from the mid-1980s. However, demand weakened as petrol prices fell and conversion costs for LPG mounted.

Nevertheless, the world's leading carmakers and oil companies acknowledge that the long-term future of the internal combustion engine is limited.

Ford, the world's second largest carmaker, is planning to spend Dollars 1bn on alternative fuels and emissions research in the next five years. It has teamed up with BP Amoco to explore enironmentally friendly road transport, while also working with DaimlerChrysler to develop fuel cell vehicles.

Similarly, GM has joined forces with Exxon to pioneer technology to extract the hydrogen to power a fuel-cell driven car with regular petrol. DaimlerChrysler has an almost identical initiative under way with Shell.

The benefits of fuel cells are promising. Vehicles that generate electricity from hydrogen could deliver near-zero emissions, ultimately emitting only steam from their exhausts. But in spite of prolonged research, there is little consensus within the motor industry on the right infrastructure to provide the fuel or the right technology.

More important for consumers, the first production fuel cell cars - due on the roads by 2003-2004 - are likely to cost substantially more than petrol or diesel vehicles. Consequently, several carmakers, among them Japan's Honda and PSA Peugeot Citroen of France, have devoted as much research capital to refining existing engine technology as to developing fuel cells.

Both Honda and PSA believe that fossil fuels will continue to power most vehicles for several decades to come. If that is the case in the developed world, then the penetration of alternative fuels in emerging markets is likely to be even more limited.

In the medium term, fuel cells and natural gas vehicles may prove more popular with commercial vehicle operators - particularly municipal bus operators or garbage collection services - than private motorists. Such fleet operators can overcome the infrastructure issue by establishing central fuelling depots, and could offset initial capital costs through a mixture of grants and tax incentives.

DaimlerChrysler is planning to build 20-30 urban buses with fuel cell drives over the next three years. But Dr Ferdinand Panik, head of the group's fuel cell project, admits: "We are aware that we have to reduce the cost, volume and weight of the fuel cell systems in order to become competitive with internal combustion engines."

However, most industry analysts believe the real incentive for alternative fuels will come from new emissions regulations and controls rather than protests over petrol prices.

In the US, the state of California has drawn up the country's stiffest emissions legislation and has persuaded the big three carmakers to join a fuel cell partnership to bolster the use of cleaner fuels. Several other US states have introduced legislation demanding that a significant proportion of state government vehicles use alternative fuels.

In Europe, meanwhile, the motor industry has agreed to cut average fuel consumption to about six litres per 100km by 2008. The initiative, applied to each carmaker's product portfolio, is designed to reduce the amount of CO emissions to 140gm per kilometre, against today's average of 186g/km.

Given that fuel cells emit almost no harmful CO, while LPG and compressed natural gas cut such emissions by up to 20 per cent, the regulations could be the trigger for new fuels to gain market share.