To: Dan3 who wrote (53465 ) 9/15/2000 9:36:48 AM From: Zeev Hed Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625 Dan, don't open that pandora box of "German Academics", please. While they are quite good at what they are doing, when they lose their moral compass, they bring calamity on the world and themselves. They are no better than American, or French, or Japanese academics however. They do have a tendency to be more meticulous than some of our "Academics". That characteristic is well balanced, however, with "stiffness thinking", which inhibits innovation. German academics are rarely amused at anything. That is as much of a generalization you can make. I had worked with very few, and for obvious reasons, I limit my activity with them, some of them do have a tendency of losing their moral compass. As for Rambus having invented RDRAM but not DDR and SDRAM, you have not cited anything specific to back this contention. Most of Rambus' IP has to do with communication between memory and other devices in systems, including elements that needs to be incorporated in the memory itself to achieve certain goals. While I have not studied the difference between the three technologies and thus cannot make a cogent comment on your tenet, from what I have gathered here and there, the two branches differ mainly in serialism and parallelism. I have to assume that both the US and EU patent office would not allow claims that were in the prior art, so I have to assume that, for instance, claims on double clocking (rise/decay) and claims related to "on chip" registers for specific functions (or any other pertinent claim, for that matter), are valid, and if SDRAM and DDR use such registers and DDR uses such double clocking, the fact that one system is serial and the other parallel is irrelevant, the claims are infringed. It is sufficient that a single claim within the whole body of Rambus' IP is maintained valid and found to be infringed upon by SDRAM and DDR to disallow its use without paying a license fee and future royalties. Whether Rambus invented SDRAM and DDR is not relevant as long as a meticulous German court, with its moral compass in order, find that these "new inventions" infringe on the prior inventions of Rambus. If you are so inclined, peruse some of the patents claims and see if the claims relate to "memory" in general, or to RDRAM memory only. You may be surprised how broad the independent claims are, despite their unusual length. Zeev