To: Solon who wrote (858 ) 9/15/2000 5:04:28 PM From: cosmicforce Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931 Earlier I said:Where is my contract with the Deity? I've never taken an oath to Him - He never asked me, nor did he give me the choice to accept or reject such a declaration based upon my reason and judgement. This is kinda crucial to this Christian Bible God thing. Why don't I get to work out my own contract? Who says I can't? One book written by men. Gods, as far as I can and do know today, don't write and publish books. I've never seen a book published by a God, nor has a plausible example been told or shown to me by a source whose knowledge of such an act seems tractable. I thought of a little scenario:I'm walking through the woods and I come upon a cave. In the cave lies a skeleton clutching to its breast a carved tablet, impeccable in every detail. Really, really well done. Glowing even. And on this (in a language I understand) are the words of God. It says so right there on the tablet. "I am the words of the one true God and if you doubt my provenance, merely consider this ... I am talking to you [My name]. This message is for you. It is for you to carry and hold. You should share it. <more words from the author>" Why should I not ignore everything else that anyone ever said to me and take up the plaque and call it my own? Would it not be irrational not to do it? I don't know the identity of the skeleton. Maybe his name is the same as mine, and they were his God's word to him and not my God's words to me at all, except through a coincidence, that his God never intended, or maybe he did intend it, but he is still not my God. Because there is no provenence that I can trace, it is a lot like any circumstantial evidence. I am to believe that God gave me reason, wit and caution only to have me believe something that I found written in a cave somewhere. What if I find a Burger King napkin that says "Here are the true words of God"? Most religions (except mine) have this problem. My "religion" if indeed it is one, is that my mind is capable of knowing what I must know. If I can't know it, but need to know it, then that is my creator's doing and not mine. How can I be held accountable for something that is my creator's doing and is clearly a design defect?