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To: puborectalis who wrote (14810)9/16/2000 9:41:11 PM
From: EJhonsa  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 60323
 
Sorry if these links have been posted before. Sandisk longs ought to take notice:

siemens.com

samsungelectronics.com

There's two things that startled me about these MP3 phones, each of which will be sold with 32 MB flash cards pre-installed. First, they're both set to come out later this year. Second, they both weigh less than 100g (the average phone today weighs around 110-130g). I know that Samsung competes with Sandisk, so I doubt that they're using Sandisk's chips (although they still undoubtedly will pay royalties); but Siemens is a possibility.

So far, I've held off on investing in Sandisk due to my prior belief that it'd still be a while before removable flash cards would become possible to use in conjunction with small, light, convenient, user-friendly handsets; but the Siemens and Samsung phones are making me think twice about that. What particularly interests me here is the potential for flash to be used to store digital camera pictures and short movie clips as well. This, in turn, would lead to handset manufacturers seeking the highest-capacity removable flash cards to pre-install on their phones (within a reasonable price range, of course), and we all know who leads here.

I know there's been some talk about automatically uploading pictures taken from digital cameras directly to the internet, but for high-quality pictures, this might not be the most economical solution given the amount of bandwidth that could quickly be taken up on 3G networks that are inevitably going to be capacity-constrained as it is. For the next few years, flash cards seem to be the best solution; and even after that, users might still prefer the flexibility and ease of use that a removable card offers. After all, even though the internet's reduced the pressing need for floppy disks, it hasn't made them obsolete.

Meanwhile, one of the best-kept secrets regarding the rise of file swapping services such as Napster is that many of them, such as Scour Media Exchange and iMesh, are now also being used significantly to share different types of video files. With always-on broadband connections rapidly proliferating, the potential future popularity of video downloads, and of handsets that provide the ability to view the contents of such downloads, shouldn't be forgotten about. If it's easy enough to install MP3 software on handsets, installing the Real Player, WMP, and AVI playback software shouldn't be too difficult either. The only potential holdups here could be the lack of quality color displays and embedded video cards on such devices. However, given the 3G prototypes that I've seen (see gsmworld.com, this hurdle also will most likely be crossed without much difficulty.

Eric



To: puborectalis who wrote (14810)9/16/2000 11:45:40 PM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323
 
Stephen,

Billy Mills

mines.edu

The Apple QuickTime presentation is best.

P.S. The Internet is awesome.

Ausdauer



To: puborectalis who wrote (14810)9/18/2000 2:54:26 AM
From: rjk01  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 60323
 
M-System (FLSH) vs. SSTI
M-Systems' (FLSH) DiskOnChip Millennium (DOC-M) is the world's only single-die flash disk, which makes it an optimal nonremovable data storage solution for internet appliances such as set-top boxes, smart phones, web phones, car PCs, personal digital assistants (PDAs) and network terminals. It is the lightest, smallest, least power consuming, and most cost-effective flash disk solution on the market.

At 8 MB, DOC-M has the capacity to store a typical internet appliance's operating system, applications and data files. Because DOC-M is rewritable, files can be easily updated as internet standards and applications evolve. Next year's single die 32 MB DOC-M will provide the additional capacity needed to support color displays and additional features.

M-Systems has reason to remain confident that it will maintain its #1 position despite of recently announced competition from Silicon Storage Technologies' (SSTI) ATA-Disk Chip. M-Systems' DOC-M is not only better performing, but more cost effective, since it enjoys the advantages of volume NAND flash pricing and superior product integration. Likewise its economies of scale and industry-wide motherboard support are unmatched by any competitor.

DOC 2000, DOC-M and the Competition

To understand M-Systems' strengths vs. the competition it is important to understand the differences between M-Systems' own DOC 2000 and DOC-M.

The DOC 2000 is made up of a mini-motherboard with an 8 MB flash chip (or chips), low cost logic and a few passive components, all assembled into a module.

Flash disk module solutions such as SSTI's need essentially the same components as DOC 2000, but with a more expensive and complex microcontroller instead of the low-cost logic used by M-Systems. DOC 2000 does not need a microprocessor because M-System's software is usually embedded in the Operating System (OS) allowing a direct interface with the product's CPU.

While DOC 2000 enjoys this advantage vs. the competition, DOC-M ups the ante. DOC-M takes all the discrete pieces of DOC 2000 and integrates them onto one piece of silicon.

DOC-M's single-chip flash disk consists of 8 MB of NAND flash memory, 512-bytes of RAM (providing an execute-in-place capability for the boot code)and a controller for EDC/ECC (error detection code/error correction code) logic. Combined with M-Systems' TrueFFS software, this single chip functions as a fully bootable hard drive.


Cost Advantages

Competing microprocessor-based flash disk solutions, such as SSTI's, are at a significant disadvantage to DOC-M when it comes to price. An 8 MB DOC-M sells for roughly $15 to $17 in volume. Published volume pricing for an 8 MB SSTI ATA-Disk Chip is $22, making it roughly 30% to 45% more expensive than DOC-M.

This price gap is going to be tough to close.

Roughly 95% of the cost of materials for DOC-M is the cost of the NAND flash itself. M-Systems is the world's largest NAND flash producer's largest customer (as well as Toshiba's strategic partner). SSTI's core business does not use NAND flash (although their ATA-Disk Chip does). Since it is thus not a large NAND flash customer, SSTI does not enjoy volume pricing.

As a single chip solution, M-Systems DOC-M has neither the assembly costs nor the added component costs of competitor's multi-chip packaged devices.

Economies of Scale and Customers

As the leader in flash disk shipments, M-Systems also enjoys economies of scale. In the second quarter of this year, M-Systems shipped $17.8 million of DOC to a variety of customers such as Microsoft, NCR, Samsung, Toshiba, Daewoo, Groupe Bull, PictureTel, Acer, Boca Research, Cabletron, Boundless Technologies, Crosstainment AG, CTX Opto-Electronics, Netier Technologies, Network Computing Devices, VXL Instruments, WebSurfer and others.

This impressive list promises to grow longer. In the last 12 months, M-Systems has been rolling along with an 80% win ratio among prospective customers requiring local data storage. 20% to 25% of those wins are with major accounts.

SSTI appears to still to be in the starting blocks. Company press releases have yet to acknowledge any customers for their ATA-Disk Chip.

Embedded Motherboard Support

One cost and time effective approach to product development and manufacturing in the internet appliance and embedded solutions marketplace is to use off-the-shelf motherboards. Due to its market success, DOC has industry-wide support from embedded motherboard manufacturers.

Currently, a DOC socket is designed into more than 500 different types of these boards from a variety of manufacturers. Designers choosing these boards, already have DOC pre-designed into their products.

M-Systems' DOC socket is the smallest, most cost effective interface, costing less than 5 cents. Other module solutions require a relatively expensive connector that can cost 10 times more.

While there may be motherboards with sockets built for the ATA-disk chip solutions, they have yet to be publicized. The ATA-Disk Chip will not work in DOC sockets.

Challenges of Success

With demand for DOC-M is at record levels and rising, M-Systems is scrambling to keep up. Although guaranteed monthly allotments from Toshiba will soon be increased, capacity may become inadequate.

M-Systems has been hinting that a second source (besides Toshiba) for the next generation DOC-M may be announced this year.

If this comes to pass, it will be welcome news for three reasons. First, supply constraints will be addressed. Second, M-Systems dependence on Toshiba as its only DOC-M source will be minimized. Last (and certainly not least) it will, in all likelihood, mean another very significant strategic partner for M-Systems.




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